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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ75, 75b, 75 SAO inc the Transitional => Topic started by: Rmach on May 16, 2017, 10:46:25 AM
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I won a Gunbroker auction yesterday on a new CZ75b SKU 91101. The only info I could find on this 91101 was that it was a European model that has different style plastic grips, but supposedly identical to the 91102. Anyway, I'm just curious if this info is correct, or are there any other differences. I borrowed these pics for reference:
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/632379000/632379079/pix468203077.jpg)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/644669000/644669649/pix228351830.jpg)
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Well I guess I'm not the only one who never saw this model before.
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The grips very well could be the only difference. Some of the pistols from CZ that were made for a foreign market will have little differences like that.
I'd call CZ USA, they should be able to tell you exactly what the difference is. My guess would be the grips. Any factory difference will produce a different sku# I believe.
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Those resemble the grips used in the mid-late 1990s. Like cntrydawwwg wrote, best to call CZ-USA.
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I'll give CZ USA a call tomorrow or Friday. The gun does not have the omega trigger. It was produced in 2016 with a non-black coated barrel, unlike the 2016 91102. I really like the look of the euro grips, and I hope they feel great in the hand. I was pleasantly surprised that I won the auction for a NIB CZ75b at under $450 delivered to my FFL.
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That's a great deal. FWIW, I have never seen those grips on new production CZ 75s at the CZUB store or in more limited "store inspections" in Central Europe.
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The grips are anatomic: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/715458/cz-grips-cz-75-85-anatomic-plastic
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I called CZ USA today, and he said the only difference that he could find was the grips. Also, this particular model/shipment was about 200 units that was distributed very quickly. The 91101 is not listed in the 2016 or 2017 catalog. I guess it was a limited run.
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Just speculating that the factory might have decided to clear out the 90s "anatomic" grips still in stock. I'll ask at the CZUB store if they have them although they are not displayed. Should see some of these pistols show up on the auction site?
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Just speculating that the factory might have decided to clear out the 90s "anatomic" grips still in stock. I'll ask at the CZUB store if they have them although they are not displayed. Should see some of these pistols show up on the auction site?
Thanks, there are a couple listed on Gunbroker right now. Not sure how fast 200 units will sell, but I have one of them coming to me.
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Grips are same as my 90's glossy blue 75B purchased new.
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Thanks, there are a couple listed on Gunbroker right now. Not sure how fast 200 units will sell, but I have one of them coming to me.
How did the seller list auction title? I did a search on "91101" in the history, but your auction didn't show. I'd like to know if the seller has more to sell.
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Thanks, there are a couple listed on Gunbroker right now. Not sure how fast 200 units will sell, but I have one of them coming to me.
How did the seller list auction title? I did a search on "91101" in the history, but your auction didn't show. I'd like to know if the seller has more to sell.
He didn't list it as a 91101, but the pictures show it as a 91101. I'll send you a PM with the link to my purchase.
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DLSUPPLIES has a quantity of three listed under one auction ad for that SKU. The description states the grips are "European market" and not the same as the ones on the stock photo they are using on the ad. Did the CZ-USA person use that "European market" term for the grips?
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DLSUPPLIES has a quantity of three listed under one auction ad for that SKU. The description states the grips are "European market" and not the same as the ones on the stock photo they are using on the ad. Did the CZ-USA person use that "European market" term for the grips?
No, he didn't.
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I just picked up the new 91101 earlier today. Fit and finish is excellent with a snug slide to frame fit, tight barrel lockup and minimal barrel bushing clearance. The trigger is crisp and probably near 5# in SA. The test target is dated 11-25-2016. The sights are luminescent green, unlike my 2015 matte stainless 75 and 2016 P-01. The sight dots glow in the dark without charging them, very interesting. The anatomic grips fit my hand well, but they are a little thicker than the factory rubber grips. A few pics:
(http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/other-handguns/298585d1495754371-show-off-your-other-handguns-001.jpg)
(http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/other-handguns/298593d1495754403-show-off-your-other-handguns-004.jpg)
(http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/other-handguns/298601d1495754431-show-off-your-other-handguns-003.jpg)
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So when did CZ start using this new luminescent sight paint? It's a big improvement over the sight paint they used on my 2015 matte stainless and 2016 P-01. Us old guys need all the help we can get. Here's a side by side pic comparing the sights with my other two CZ's.
(http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/other-handguns/298681d1495801745-added-cz75b-matte-stainless-stable-005.jpg)
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Got her cleaned up:
(http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/firing-line/298865d1495825389-my-top-five-9mm-pistols-007.jpg)
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Very nice. I'll have to see what's up with the new luminescent sights. Looking forward to a range report.
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Cool looking CZ. I think the grips give it an " Old School " look. Good luck with your new CZ and may it serve you well. John
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I saw one of these in a shop over the weekend. It was in the case right behind a FDE P-10c.
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Cool looking CZ. I think the grips give it an " Old School " look. Good luck with your new CZ and may it serve you well. John
Thanks, I guess the grips were inspired by the 1988 Browning Hi-Power mark III:
(http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/hipower-0035.jpg)
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They are kind of "old school", if two decades ago qualifies as old for us old guys . Showed it around....in the Czech market, these are sometimes referred to as "Turkish" grips for the 90s Turk contract. Not found as stock grips on new CZ 75s in the home market so "European market" sounds like sales language. Regardless, OP got a great deal on a nice CZ and changing grips are like shopping for shoes for some.
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Finally made it to the range today after an eight month absence. The new 91101 ran 250rds with no hints of a malfunction. It's much more accurate than I am and a sweet shooter.
(http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/other-handguns/305538d1497662776-kahr-cm9-cz75b-performance-range-reports-003.jpg)