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Title: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on June 02, 2017, 09:47:26 AM
We have spent time with the P-10-C and we have a good handle on upgrades.  We intend to:

1)  Fix the creep in SA
2)  Reduce the SA from 6+ pounds to around 4
3)  Fix the trigger irritation and reduce SA over-travel
4)  Fix the nearly impossible to release slide lock
5)  Offer a variety of sights
6)  Polish tune for a high degree of performance



Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: William_Broadus on June 02, 2017, 09:51:21 AM
Great news!  I'm sure I'll be coming to get an upgraded pistol later this year!

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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Grandrover on June 02, 2017, 10:16:01 AM
EXCELLENT!  Can I get on a wait list?  This will make a good pistol outstanding.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: TNman on June 02, 2017, 02:01:20 PM
Sign me up as well

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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: nonamehavei on June 02, 2017, 03:52:07 PM
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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Kenneth on June 02, 2017, 09:05:21 PM
Schmeky, you should get into slide milling and stippling.

Mounting red dots and slide lightening are the new craze.

A RMR'd and stippled P10C would sell like hot cakes.


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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: RandyMan on June 02, 2017, 11:04:51 PM
Put me on the list
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on June 03, 2017, 12:32:48 AM
Now that sounds awesome.  8)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on June 03, 2017, 09:44:13 AM
Kenneth,

You mean like this ?:

https://cajungunworks.com/product/spcz75ken-shadow-optic-mount/
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Kenneth on June 03, 2017, 10:22:54 AM
Kenneth,

You mean like this ?:

https://cajungunworks.com/product/spcz75ken-shadow-optic-mount/

Well I missed that.




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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on June 03, 2017, 12:11:02 PM
Does your wife wanting more of my money have anything to do with this product development?  It might work.    :) :)

Joe
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Brian Ahearn on June 03, 2017, 04:09:47 PM
I think I will wait and have Dave build one for my collection The factory pistol has to many basic issues for my tastes which is exactly why I don't already one. I have been reading up on all the minor issues in this and other forums and have been delaying my purchase. I have bought a variety of striker fired pistols in the past from other manufacturers and most of them did not live up to the hype. I am biased because I like highly tuned crisp triggers with little pre and over travel. The better the trigger the better the shooting groups at all distances. So since I am already a fan of Daves work I will be happy to wait and see what he comes up with. Then I can buy one and send in for mods.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on June 03, 2017, 10:19:52 PM
Not a bad idea - he and his crew do incredible work, and the new Gator Factory is coming on line in the future, too.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on June 04, 2017, 12:18:25 PM
I want the trigger and trigger pecker redesigned.  I just got home from the range with the P-10C and that is the only thing that really bugs me right now. 

The slide release and mag release on mine are fine.  I've got the sights where I want them.  I've fattened up the grip.  The trigger action relative to the striker is smooth and creepy, just a little higher pull weight than I prefer, but I could live with it just the way it is. 

Mine has functioned 100% since the first shot out of the box.  I haven't cleaned it yet.  It is as accurate as the P-07/09 pistols, so it is excellent.  I like everything except the trigger and trigger pecker. 

Joe
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: jeffheikkila322 on June 04, 2017, 02:54:21 PM
We have spent time with the P-10-C and we have a good handle on upgrades.  We intend to:

1)  Fix the creep in SA
2)  Reduce the SA from 6+ pounds to around 4
3)  Fix the trigger irritation and reduce SA over-travel
4)  Fix the nearly impossible to release slide lock
5)  Offer a variety of sights
6)  Polish tune for a high degree of performance
I'm ready. Are you taking orders yet?


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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: nonamehavei on June 04, 2017, 03:00:23 PM
Same here I would like 1 P10C pro package please
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on June 04, 2017, 06:03:09 PM
We must first have the parts in stock before we can begin offering our in-shop services. 

We have 80% of the new parts already engineered and ready for phase 1 prototyping, the last 20% is doing the final small detail tweaks on the CGW parts prior to full scale production. 

Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Jennslife17 on June 04, 2017, 08:15:01 PM
I will send mine in now and patiently wait for the day you have the parts 😂 No pistol I have ever owned has run as perfectly as my pink and grey SP-01 from you guys!! Would love do have my daily carry be the same way! ❤️❤️❤️
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on June 04, 2017, 11:08:37 PM
I'll buy the CGW trigger parts when they are ready.  Until then, I fixed my immediate trigger pecker problem for my range only P-10C.  Similar in shape to the P-09/07 triggers now.   :) :)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Firearms/P-10C-miscellaneous-2017-May-start/i-fCjNjQK/1/4d2b3578/L/DSC00084b-L.jpg)

Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on June 04, 2017, 11:14:33 PM
That's....different. :) Joe, I should get you with my buddy LAGS - between the two of you, you could build anything out of nothing.
schmecky, I know whatever you come up with will be excellent. :)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on June 05, 2017, 06:55:48 AM
schmecky, I know whatever you come up with will be excellent. :)

If I carry it, I'll have to put the tie-wrap back on.   :) :)

Schmecky MIGHT be able to come up with something better than my short term solution.

Joe
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Wolfofodin on June 05, 2017, 09:45:28 AM
I actually like the trigger for a stock striker fired gun. But there is always room for improvement. I look forward to these products and I hope they can be purchased for self installation.

I'm also hoping for a fiber optic front and blacked out rear sight set with the front width being the same as the rear notch.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: solipsism on June 18, 2017, 02:19:36 AM
Are there any plans for better parts or tuning the mag release?
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on June 18, 2017, 10:09:49 AM
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Are there any plans for better parts or tuning the mag release

We feel we can share the procedure for fixing this at a home.  Nothing better than a free fix. 
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on June 20, 2017, 07:58:36 PM
Sweet. 8)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: JConnor93 on June 20, 2017, 11:04:38 PM
Well, I'm just excited to get a p10c to begin with. Now an upgrade package already? Nice!
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Indy_Tim on June 21, 2017, 05:08:57 PM
I'd love to get rid of that last little bit of creep in the SA pull at the wall and can't wait until parts to fix that and the trigger dingus are available.  When I bought mine, I took it apart to clean it and did a very minor bit of polishing on a couple of parts as well as the breech face bottom and back of the slide stop.  I don't know if that's what made the difference, but my pistol is sitting at a near perfect 4# trigger with only a touch of creep left.  The slide stop and mag release are exactly where I want them to be, but the more I shoot it, the more the trigger dingus bugs me.

The trigger and sights are definitely on my must upgrade list.  I can live with them as is, but would be happier to have them improved.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on June 21, 2017, 11:57:42 PM
Shall we tell CZ to officially rename that part the "dingus"? Joe, you started something here. ;)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: 1SOW on June 22, 2017, 01:19:33 AM
A very descriptive name.   I don't think we need a vote.  "Dingus" it is.
Title: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: ranastas on June 22, 2017, 02:05:54 AM
I think I've been on the list since a month or two after the announcement lol


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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on June 22, 2017, 07:29:22 AM
A very descriptive name.   I don't think we need a vote.  "Dingus" it is.

The part that comes in the production guns from the factory is a "pecker" or "dingus".   "Dingus" is OK with me.   A modified one that no longer is overly restrictive and doesn't feel like a butter knife after 30 rounds is a "trigger safety". 

I guess a "dingus" restrained with JB-Weld is "useless".

Joe
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on June 23, 2017, 05:12:31 AM
No, that's a "dingus plus". ;)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: incogneato on June 23, 2017, 04:28:36 PM
We have spent time with the P-10-C and we have a good handle on upgrades.  We intend to:
...
3)  Fix the trigger irritation and reduce SA over-travel
...

Would this happen to be a new trigger assembly? If so, will it be available as an individual part?
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: incogneato on June 23, 2017, 04:32:00 PM
Kenneth,

You mean like this ?:

https://cajungunworks.com/product/spcz75ken-shadow-optic-mount/

Are you already milling P-10C slides?
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on June 23, 2017, 04:43:42 PM
Yes, we have already done several P-10-C slides for optics.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: incogneato on June 23, 2017, 07:31:32 PM
Yes, we have already done several P-10-C slides for optics.

Thanks. Now, myy suppressor ready model just has to arrive so I can send it to you...
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: earlan357 on June 27, 2017, 09:25:15 AM
Yes, we have already done several P-10-C slides for optics.

How do you do the RMR cut?  Interference fit only? Front bosses? Threaded mounting screw posts?  Rear iron sight cut forward or behind rmr? 
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: 1SOW on June 27, 2017, 02:55:54 PM
A very descriptive name.   I don't think we need a vote.  "Dingus" it is.

The part that comes in the production guns from the factory is a "pecker" or "dingus".   "Dingus" is OK with me.   A modified one that no longer is overly restrictive and doesn't feel like a butter knife after 30 rounds is a "trigger safety". 

I guess a "dingus" restrained with JB-Weld is "useless".

Joe

 O0 ;D

A trigger with a dingus safety at all is a minus to me. 
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: GRU7_Mike on June 27, 2017, 04:40:50 PM
Sure seems like a lot to do to a new firearm that was supposed to blow the Glock 19 away........straight out of the box from the factory. Looks like CGW should just build all the CZ firearms to begin with. 
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on June 28, 2017, 01:45:53 AM
Well, it's not as bad as I've seen 1911 guys do with expensive brand new pistols...that can be amazing sometimes. Same with ARs...out of the box is never, ever good enough. Come to think of it, aren't there a ton of modifications for Glocks out there, too?
This is the 1st Gen P-10C, and just like almost everything, there will very likely be some very intelligent and influential people listening to the feedback to make improvements as needed, unless the truly custom work brings the price point to where it's no longer where they want it. Balances.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: earlan357 on June 28, 2017, 07:37:54 AM
Well, it's not as bad as I've seen 1911 guys do with expensive brand new pistols...that can be amazing sometimes. Same with ARs...out of the box is never, ever good enough. Come to think of it, aren't there a ton of modifications for Glocks out there, too?
This is the 1st Gen P-10C, and just like almost everything, there will very likely be some very intelligent and influential people listening to the feedback to make improvements as needed, unless the truly custom work brings the price point to where it's no longer where they want it. Balances.

But Glocks are perfect out of the box.  I have three, and other than removing the finger grooves, trigger guard undercut, stippling, metal sights, trigger & striker springs, Agency trigger, Ghost connector, Vickers mag release & slide stop, and grip plug mine are practically factory. ;)

I think the P-10 is simply a better starting platform.  You can't add ambi-controls to a Glock, the factory trigger is still miles better than even a good aftermarket Glock trigger, and the ergos are better.  All the P-10 needs in my opinion is a flat faced trigger that doesn't dig into your finger and more sight options.  Everything else is just gravy.  That said, I have a feeling all my internals will be CGW parts when they are released.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on June 28, 2017, 09:24:29 PM
There were some things that needed attention on the P-09/07 when they first came out.  We lived.  I sure did. 
I'm with Earlan357, we have a great starting point with the P-10C.  I'm looking at the P-10C as a development pistol--we have an extremely accurate and reliable gun out of the box, with a less than perfect trigger safety and a heavy, but very controllable trigger.  It will be easier and less expensive to turn this pistol platform in to a precision pistol match gun than a P-09/07, in my opinion. 
(Not that anyone is going to try that other than me.)

Might take more Sugru and JB-Weld to get the P-10 perfect for me compared to a P-09, however.   :) :)

I can live with that. 

Joe
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: GRU7_Mike on June 28, 2017, 09:53:18 PM
There were some things that needed attention on the P-09/07 when they first came out.  We lived.  I sure did. 
I'm with Earlan357, we have a great starting point with the P-10C.  I'm looking at the P-10C as a development pistol--we have an extremely accurate and reliable gun out of the box, with a less than perfect trigger safety and a heavy, but very controllable trigger.  It will be easier and less expensive to turn this pistol platform in to a precision pistol match gun than a P-09/07, in my opinion. 
(Not that anyone is going to try that other than me.)



Might take more Sugru and JB-Weld to get the P-10 perfect for me compared to a P-09, however.   :) :)

I can live with that. 

Joe

My "development pistol" cost me $265.  Did not really absolutely need it, but put a $40 Apex trigger in and  have a gun that has never experienced a failure...Smith & Wesson SD9VE.  But to be fair...you read about others having one problem after another with theirs.  Only two new firearms I have ever had that could not work out all the bugs was a 1st generation SKYY CPX-2 (that became SCCY) and a Beretta Nano.  I am still baffled as to why CZ built a pistol getting away from their trademark design of slide inside the rail that they swore to God made such a difference in accuracy...not that that has anything to do with any problems being encountered with the new P10c. Although there are few that would admit it, some of the problem may be new gun owners wanted the "latest thing" and jumped on the new CZ P10c without really knowing how to grip , shoot or care for a firearm. That may account for a great deal of the reported malfunctions with this pistol. Not the first rodeo for CZ and I am sure they are seriously looking for answers to remedy any problems with the P10c.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: copemech on June 29, 2017, 12:07:04 AM
Sure seems like a lot to do to a new firearm that was supposed to blow the Glock 19 away........straight out of the box from the factory. Looks like CGW should just build all the CZ firearms to begin with.

A stock Glock sucks TOO! Except WORSE! O0
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: HST on June 29, 2017, 10:29:14 AM
What malfunctions ? At 400 rounds my trigger pull was 4.1 pounds. Shoots like a laser. Is it perfect ? No .
Are there things i want to change ? yes . Most of it is personal preference . I have well over a 1000 rounds threw
it now and the more i shoot it the more i like it. What feels right to one person isn't going to right to everybody else.
To each there own .
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on June 29, 2017, 03:57:57 PM
I've had one FTF. I am 95% sure it was my reload. But, it passed the Sock Drawer Torture Test, so I have 100% confidence in it. :) Actually, I AM carrying it, with only the one spare mag...still breaking it in. Need another mag or three, though.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: sapper9mm on July 13, 2017, 10:29:06 PM
lol I'll gladly send my P10 c in for testing as right now it's not in my keep list. It just doesn't have the feel or love that my P01 Copperhead has.
Praying I still have it when CGW is ready lol.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: sumoman on July 16, 2017, 09:05:18 AM
Just went tthrough this thread. Very interesting. I like my P-10c a lot, but  now I think trigger can be improved. In particular, somehow I have a hard time depressing the dingus completely before starting to pull the trigger, and so the back of the dingus (trigger safety) hits the back of the place where it is supposed to go in. As a result, I have two clicks... I am very sorry for the unprofessional terminology here. In short, I would be very much interested in getting improved trigger parts, without eliminating the trigger safety. This is both carry and range gun for me rotating with G19.  I am no gunsmith either. Will the gun need to be shipped to CGW?
Thanks
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: GRU7_Mike on July 16, 2017, 09:38:40 AM
On an S&W SD9VE after installing an Apex trigger some guns (according to Apex, less than 5%) need to have some sanding to upper rear of the dingus to enable it to obtain smooth and complete trigger travel to fire the gun.  They say this is because of variations of the firearms due to molding in production. Mine was one of the very few that needed some filing to allow the trigger full travel. 
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: dummykid on July 17, 2017, 12:38:51 PM
Can we install those parts by ourselves instead of in house service?


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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on July 17, 2017, 09:48:38 PM
Can we install those parts by ourselves instead of in house service?

The P-10C appears to be easier to work with than even the P-09/07, so I would think everything CGW offers will be user installable.  I'll post some how-to videos when the parts are available.   The P-10C videos will be shorter and move a little faster than the P-09/07 videos, I promise.  But the lighting will be good as will the closeups.   :) :)

Joe
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: dummykid on July 17, 2017, 10:19:06 PM
sounds great. I agree with you that working on P10c should be the same as glock/P320.  I have my P-07 and sp01 sent in for pro-package, and CGW did excellent jobs on these 2 pistols.  I am really looking forward on the P10c


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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on July 19, 2017, 01:12:32 AM
Quote
I am very sorry for the unprofessional terminology here.
We call things dingus, trigger pecker, and other weird names, because we can. The only time I get "professional" is with behavior. :) So far, you are quite ahead of the game, sir. 8)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: MissionaryMike on July 22, 2017, 04:52:55 PM
Eagerly waiting for an update; but I'm being cool about it.  8)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: nonamehavei on July 22, 2017, 07:32:02 PM
Been checking the Cajun site daily, still only 2 items on the P10 page
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: dummykid on July 24, 2017, 10:51:54 PM
I am refreshing the website twice everyday and only see 2 items


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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Myk on July 25, 2017, 05:35:47 AM
lol I'll gladly send my P10 c in for testing as right now it's not in my keep list. It just doesn't have the feel or love that my P01 Copperhead has.
Praying I still have it when CGW is ready lol.
Wasn't the Copper Head about 2000 ? That's some pretty high standards you're holding a sub 500 pistol to.I like my P01 too sturdy reliable you know where it is when you need it but even a stock one is over a 100 more than a p10 and stock vs. stock the p10's trigger is imo better that the p01's plus you have 15 rd. mags and a .50 " longer barrel and that barrel lugs and ramp are mammoth compared to the P01. I doubt you'll find anything you like better than a Copperhead for 500.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on July 25, 2017, 08:40:09 AM
The kind of upgrades we have in the works are not going to be quick, but if done right, will be very effective.  We truly believe, based on the results we have gotten with our rough prototype parts, we can turn the P-10 into a superb shooter.  A Glock/M&P/XD/Beretta killer, if you will.

Sights are on order, delivery on these will be in August for the various non-tritium versions.  The Trijicon sights will be around the end of August, first of September.  We placed the largest single order in our companies history with Dawson Precision in July, just for P-10 sights.

The frame/slide upgrades are probably 2-3 months away, but we are focused on getting them dead on the first time.  No one wants to get Gen1, Gen2, etc., upgrades.  We are shooting for a Gen1 only scenario. 
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: dummykid on July 25, 2017, 03:59:58 PM
Hi David, is the frame/slide kit easy to install like glock kit?


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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on July 26, 2017, 10:17:10 AM
The kind of upgrades we have in the works are not going to be quick, but if done right, will be very effective.  We truly believe, based on the results we have gotten with our rough prototype parts, we can turn the P-10 into a superb shooter.  A Glock/M&P/XD/Beretta killer, if you will.

Sights are on order, delivery on these will be in August for the various non-tritium versions.  The Trijicon sights will be around the end of August, first of September.  We placed the largest single order in our companies history with Dawson Precision in July, just for P-10 sights.

The frame/slide upgrades are probably 2-3 months away, but we are focused on getting them dead on the first time.  No one wants to get Gen1, Gen2, etc., upgrades.  We are shooting for a Gen1 only scenario.

Fantastically awesome. :)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: damo4570 on July 26, 2017, 11:06:50 PM
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool CZ fanboy and I always wonder what I need with a plastic fantastic but I have to admit, I'm curious to see what you can do with this pistol.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Indy_Tim on July 31, 2017, 05:40:17 PM
I can't wait to see what CGW comes up with.  As good as it is stock, I can imagine it could become really, really good with some CGW love.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on September 13, 2017, 09:01:04 AM
Progress update:

We are moving at a pretty good clip.  Should have some of the prototype parts in for testing around the first of October.  Basic engineering is done, we just have to translate this into high quality parts for production.

We have some other new products for the 75's on the way as well.  Should be a good "bang" to end 2017. 

2018 should be pretty darn good for the CZ shooter.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: MissionaryMike on September 13, 2017, 04:49:46 PM
David, you certainly know how to keep us on a string.  :)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Swamp ash on September 14, 2017, 09:20:01 AM
2018 should be pretty darn good for the CZ shooter.

I like the sound of this...

Thank you!

Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: codfish04 on September 14, 2017, 10:40:46 AM
Progress update:

We are moving at a pretty good clip.  Should have some of the prototype parts in for testing around the first of October.  Basic engineering is done, we just have to translate this into high quality parts for production.

We have some other new products for the 75's on the way as well.  Should be a good "bang" to end 2017. 

2018 should be pretty darn good for the CZ shooter.
Just purchased a P-01. Any possible new products for it?
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Jptopdwn on September 17, 2017, 07:48:36 AM
Can't wait to see what all you release this fall!
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Indy_Tim on October 04, 2017, 09:05:00 PM
Sounds like I need to stash cash away in the gun budget as it's going to take a hit later this year.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: 808 on October 05, 2017, 06:09:12 PM
Progress update:

We have some other new products for the 75's on the way as well.  Should be a good "bang" to end 2017. 

2018 should be pretty darn good for the CZ shooter.

Hmm, looks like it’s time to clear out my wish list and spend more trigger time on my SP-01.  8)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: K3JB on October 10, 2017, 08:01:03 AM
I look forward to purchasing a P10C, but this will not happen till David has the parts and pieces to make it a great pistol.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Shadow knows on October 10, 2017, 11:11:35 PM
I am kind of in the same boat.  Wanting a few more aftermarket parts available.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Shadow knows on October 10, 2017, 11:12:23 PM
I should be more specific, more parts so I can work on it myself.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: earlan357 on October 13, 2017, 10:38:13 AM
I volunteer to test.  1k rounds enough?  I'll pay for the parts too.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on October 13, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
I volunteer to test.  1k rounds enough?  I'll pay for the parts too.

Ditto  :) :)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: rch024 on October 15, 2017, 06:13:10 AM
I volunteer to test.  1k rounds enough?  I'll pay for the parts too.

Ditto  :) :)

Haha!  I'd volunteer to get in on this, too!  I'll even go pick the parts up from the shop myself.  Been meaning to see the new shop anyway.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Bossgobbler on October 24, 2017, 06:26:30 PM
Any Progress update?
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Long_shot on October 25, 2017, 11:14:27 PM
Yes, I'm also interested!
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Str8t-Shooter on October 26, 2017, 03:46:50 AM
Me too! 
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on October 26, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
Looking like we may begin getting our parts in sometime in late November according to our supplier. 
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: earlan357 on October 26, 2017, 11:30:49 AM
Looking like we may begin getting our parts in sometime in late November according to our supplier.

Wife: "What do you want for Christmas?"
  Me:  ;D
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: armoredman on October 27, 2017, 05:36:31 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: RandyMan on October 27, 2017, 08:28:12 AM
Looking like we may begin getting our parts in sometime in late November according to our supplier.


I guess I will just send you my credit card to keep. LOL
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: dummykid on November 20, 2017, 01:29:23 PM
Any update?


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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: MissionaryMike on November 20, 2017, 02:06:20 PM
I briefly spoke with David about this last week.  There was a delay with the manufacturer of the parts.  David is not happy about that, but can't really do anything about it either.  He's sort of stuck waiting along with the rest of us.

However, when the parts/package finally is released to the public, I have the utmost confidence in the efficacy of those parts to improve upon the p-10 platform, which isn't so lacking to begin with.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on November 20, 2017, 05:27:25 PM
Seems we have been bumped up in the production schedule (see b_tt-head comment).  Parts should be available in December. 

I guess being a b_tt-head can pay off on occasion  ???

Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: NCTURBOS on November 21, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
We have spent time with the P-10-C and we have a good handle on upgrades.  We intend to:

1)  Fix the creep in SA
2)  Reduce the SA from 6+ pounds to around 4
3)  Fix the trigger irritation and reduce SA over-travel
4)  Fix the nearly impossible to release slide lock
5)  Offer a variety of sights
6)  Polish tune for a high degree of performance

Patiently waiting, and looking forward for the release... Really only need to address item #2 on the list for me. The rest would just be gravy... ;)

K.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: bigdave24 on November 21, 2017, 06:19:58 PM
May I suggest a beveled striker plate that fits better, so it won't drop down?
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on November 22, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
Sneak peak of some of the new prototype P-10-C parts.  The quality is exactly what we are demanding, these parts are beautiful outside of the pistol!

We should have the high quality tool steel striker soon, followed by the CGW contoured trigger. 

Looks like we may be going "live" with the parts and in-shop upgrades in December, if all goes as planned.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/923/35e83E.jpg)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: 1SOW on November 22, 2017, 07:23:04 PM
Those sure don't look like typical 'plastic striker" gun parts.  They look fantastic! 

Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Ferris13 on November 25, 2017, 10:17:12 AM
Excited to see what you guys come up with.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: earlan357 on November 26, 2017, 11:37:29 PM
Sneak peak of some of the new prototype P-10-C parts.  The quality is exactly what we are demanding, these parts are beautiful outside of the pistol!

We should have the high quality tool steel striker soon, followed by the CGW contoured trigger. 

Looks like we may be going "live" with the parts and in-shop upgrades in December, if all goes as planned.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/923/35e83E.jpg)

Hmm...the metal take-down plungers are nice, but I'm geeking out about the other part.  If I'm guessing correctly, it looks like a cam that goes on the pin inside the P-shaped slot in the trigger bar to reduce take-up, over-travel, and crisp up the break a bit.  The simplicity is genius.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on November 27, 2017, 07:33:04 AM
The simplicity is genius.

+1

Joe
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: rch024 on December 01, 2017, 11:51:45 AM
Well....it's officially December!!!  Any update to the time frame?  How about another "sneak peak" or details about the upcoming package? As if you can't already tell, I'm pretty excited about this!
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on December 05, 2017, 07:46:55 PM
We have a large order of parts on the way and the first items are the steel "T" blocks to replace the marginal plastic OEM part.

The short reset sleeve is also in the this shipment but won't be available until our new contoured alum short reset triggers arrive.

The tool steel strikers are in production, then on to heat treat.  In summation, here is how the parts are looking:

1)  T-block will be available in the next 5-7 days and is a stand alone upgrade: estimated price $20.00
2)  Short reset system is waiting on the new short reset triggers - estimate on the triggers - end of Dec; short reset sleeve must be paired with the short reset trigger: estimated short reset sleeve $15.00.
The trigger assembly is a stand alone item; the price is has not been determined yet.
3)  Striker is in production and is a stand alone upgrade: estimated price is $45.00

We are very, very close to the full upgrade

As we gain more experience with the P-10-C, and get more feedback from our customers, we will tackle additional improvements in a careful and studied manner. 

 

Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on December 06, 2017, 02:22:56 PM
How about I just get my wife to buy me a $500 CGW gift certificate for Christmas and you send parts when they are ready and you let her know when the money is nearly gone so she can buy another gift certificate?   :) :)

Joe
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Indy_Tim on December 06, 2017, 08:49:47 PM
We have a large order of parts on the way and the first items are the steel "T" blocks to replace the marginal plastic OEM part.

The short reset sleeve is also in the this shipment but won't be available until our new contoured alum short reset triggers arrive.

The tool steel strikers are in production, then on to heat treat.  In summation, here is how the parts are looking:

1)  T-block will be available in the next 5-7 days and is a stand alone upgrade: estimated price $20.00
2)  Short reset system is waiting on the new short reset triggers - estimate on the triggers - end of Dec; short reset sleeve must be paired with the short reset trigger: estimated short reset sleeve $15.00.
The trigger assembly is a stand alone item; the price is has not been determined yet.
3)  Striker is in production and is a stand alone upgrade: estimated price is $45.00

We are very, very close to the full upgrade

As we gain more experience with the P-10-C, and get more feedback from our customers, we will tackle additional improvements in a careful and studied manner.

Oh boy, it's going to be a good Christmas season for my P10C!  If these parts eliminate the trigger irritation, the P10C will be perfect.  Anything beyond that is gravy.  But, I really like the CGW recipe for gravy.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: justifiablyfit on December 06, 2017, 09:14:01 PM
Just in time for Christmas!

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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Fred Jernigan on December 07, 2017, 02:28:07 PM
I'd like to get on the list for this.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: RocketRyan on December 08, 2017, 12:10:24 PM
Sounds like some great upgrades. I've actually had a ton of fun shooting a bone stock FDE P-10c in USPSA production. Can't wait for more!
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: NCTURBOS on December 09, 2017, 10:44:48 AM
We have a large order of parts on the way...

3)  Striker is in production and is a stand alone upgrade: estimated price is $45.00

As we gain more experience with the P-10-C, and get more feedback from our customers, we will tackle additional improvements in a careful and studied manner.

Anything coming to drop 1.0-1.5 lbs. off the break of the stock trigger?

TIA,
K.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: xcentrk on December 23, 2017, 06:52:08 PM
Finally got my P-10c in (had to wait for the 10-round version... bleep NY) and am excited to get it Cajunized! Love my Pro Package P-07.

Going full tilt on this one with the RMR milled and whatever parts CGW can throw in it.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on December 23, 2017, 10:44:57 PM
Posted this another thread on this forum.  Here is the new CGW trigger in the "raw".  We have designed it to be supremely comfortable, a trigger you can use for hundreds of rounds and feel like you never fired a shot.  Should have these in for beta testing in our shop a few days after Christmas.

Should have them available for purchase around the end of Jan/18.  Will be black anodized on the first batch, other colors will follow shortly.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/KFBgA9.jpg)
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: CZATC on December 23, 2017, 11:44:54 PM
Those are very nice, kinda like the raw look myself

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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: 1SOW on December 25, 2017, 12:54:45 AM
Are these designed for use with the original "dingus" ?
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: HST on December 25, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
God i hope not ! To me it looks like it will be wider and flatter.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: schmeky on December 25, 2017, 10:02:55 AM
Original "dingus" is not wide enough and hence not comfortable. 

We have not set pricing yet, but our goal is to make them in as large a quantity as we can afford to keep the price in line. 
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: earlan357 on December 25, 2017, 10:45:41 PM
Original "dingus" is not wide enough and hence not comfortable. 

We have not set pricing yet, but our goal is to make them in as large a quantity as we can afford to keep the price in line.

Any changes to the geometry/hole spacing to change the pull characteristics or just the shoe shape for better ergonomics?
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Mjolnir on March 30, 2018, 02:36:39 PM
We have spent time with the P-10-C and we have a good handle on upgrades.  We intend to:

1)  Fix the creep in SA
2)  Reduce the SA from 6+ pounds to around 4
3)  Fix the trigger irritation and reduce SA over-travel
4)  Fix the nearly impossible to release slide lock
5)  Offer a variety of sights
6)  Polish tune for a high degree of performance

Hopefully, you'll be offering WDLC coatings through Ionbond soon. ❤️


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Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: GeneticallySwiss on April 02, 2018, 12:14:11 PM
Any updates from CGW on a reliability package or Pro Package for the P10-C?


GS
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: K3JB on April 26, 2018, 07:05:34 AM
I was wondering the same, when will these packages be available
and at what cost.
Title: Re: High Performance P-10-C Pkg Coming
Post by: Joe L on April 26, 2018, 08:53:33 AM
I have a P-10C at CGW now.  I'll let you know when I get it back and have shot a few targets with it.   Bullseye match some time with P-10C. 
Joe