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Title: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 05, 2017, 01:34:17 PM
Decided put together  A Dillon 650 order  moving on up from Single Stage .Where did you guys buy from ? I have bought some stuff from Graf & Sons but some orders take forever. Was going to order through krakenpop.com till i email 2 times no answer (Their out  ) . Im Thinking Everglades i have a Free Ship on a lg order from them but never ordered reloading equipment from them before are they ok for dillon orders ? I thought krakenpop was good but after no response to email questions then looking on FB page reviews ! Everglades  got back to my emails same hour seems real good. I only used PD and Montana for my Bullets. Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Rnlinebacker on October 05, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
EBay has free shipping. Comes direct from factory with one caliber kit

Amazon offers free shipping as well

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Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: 2bfree on October 05, 2017, 02:41:58 PM
Just order from Dillon. 579.00 + shipping. Amazon 609.00 Free shipping.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 05, 2017, 03:04:19 PM
Has anyone ordered Dillon from Everglades Bullets & reloading ?
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Rnlinebacker on October 05, 2017, 04:44:59 PM
Has anyone ordered Dillon from Everglades Bullets & reloading ?
They probably don't carry it. So it'll be a drop shipment straight from Dillon

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Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: jwc007 on October 05, 2017, 05:11:54 PM
I bought my Dillon 650 direct from Dillon, plus some accessories I needed.  No problems!  8)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: muncie21 on October 05, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
Another happy 'ordered it straight from Dillon' customer.  Dillon keeps a pretty tight leash on pricing so you'll be hard pressed to find the press (not including shipping) much cheaper than Dillon direct. 

When I  need a small part or two I typically throw them in with an order of reloading components from Grafs.  They have flat rate shipping, so if you need a small part or three it's cheaper to include it with your powder/primer order than to order separately from Dillon.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: kpj313 on October 05, 2017, 08:28:09 PM
Same here, just went straight to dillon!

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Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 06, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
Ok Thanks Dillon it is!!     
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: IDescribe on October 06, 2017, 12:53:26 PM
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle.     ;)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: newageroman on October 06, 2017, 02:03:34 PM
Bought 650 straight from Dillon earlier this year. It came within a week. I was on a tight budget, so I didn't buy the strongmount, roller handle or casefeeder. I still don't have any of those yet, but I smile every single time I make a pile of bullets with one pull of the handle. It is still WAY faster than single stage. I did get a few of the common ebay upgrades though, roller bearing shellplate, rollercam and just recently primer on/off switch.

I do some load development for rifle rounds, so the primer On/Off is the handiest feature (when you are setting up dies or checking/confirming powder charges).

I've only got the 45 setup right now, but looking to 9mm sometime soon.

One thing you will be sure of is glad you went blue. I was talking to a reloader last weekend who used the lee 3stage system and he was having case feeding and primer feeding issues.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 06, 2017, 03:57:38 PM
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle.     ;)


 
No fooling i was debating SM  LOL. Being that  My work bench is 36 1/2'' from floor .
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 06, 2017, 04:04:10 PM
Bought 650 straight from Dillon earlier this year. It came within a week. I was on a tight budget, so I didn't buy the strongmount, roller handle or casefeeder. I still don't have any of those yet, but I smile every single time I make a pile of bullets with one pull of the handle. It is still WAY faster than single stage. I did get a few of the common ebay upgrades though, roller bearing shellplate, rollercam and just recently primer on/off switch.

I do some load development for rifle rounds, so the primer On/Off is the handiest feature (when you are setting up dies or checking/confirming powder charges).

I've only got the 45 setup right now, but looking to 9mm sometime soon.

One thing you will be sure of is glad you went blue. I was talking to a reloader last weekend who used the lee 3stage system and he was having case feeding and primer feeding issues.

A lot of good info Thanks .  I got tired of the chore of Single stage press as i have the Forster Co-Ax its good but slow 100 rounds in a 1 1/2 hrs. But will keep for load development and maybe 223 . I only load pistol now.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: jwc007 on October 06, 2017, 07:28:45 PM
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle.     ;)

Yup! +1 to that!  Got those when I ordered it.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 06, 2017, 07:53:59 PM
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle.     ;)



No fooling i was debating SM  LOL. Being that  My work bench is 36 1/2'' from floor .

I use a Strong Mount on a 36" bench and love it. When you're in front of the press, the op lever needs to be at shoulder level. I like standing to reload, and with a 650 you won't be standing there long !!

The SM not only lets you set the machine deeper on your work bench (making it far more stable), but it's also the required option to mount the Bullet Tray and other options. I also like to get some rectangular magnets from the hardware store and plop them onto the SM. That's where I keep all the hex keys and other small setup tools. Sooo much more convenient.

The Roller Handle is really nice, but nothing else depends on it being there, so you can add that anytime.

I think the third party Spent Primer Chutes are very, very handy. What they do is route all the smutt and the old spent primers into a gallon milk jug under your bench. In this way all the trash is taken care of for you. Some scrap metal dealers will even pay you for the spent primer brass.

 ;)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 06, 2017, 08:05:29 PM
One of the most wonderful Dillon products is their ammo boxes. They used to be 10 for $10, but they have gone up a little. Still, where you going to get an ammo box for $1.20 ? I always have them throw some in when I order parts.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: nicky on October 06, 2017, 08:18:13 PM
A lot of folks think the roller handle is great.

I am wondering "What's so great about it". What are the benefits of it over the ball handle.

School me.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 07, 2017, 07:03:21 AM
A lot of folks think the roller handle is great.

I am wondering "What's so great about it". What are the benefits of it over the ball handle.


The larger handle displaces the force over a greater area of the palm and involves more fingers. Plus the shape and pivoting motion of the grip are simply a lot more natural. If you're just going to reload two hundred 9mm once a week, then its use is a toss-up, but if you resize bottleneck cases or anything that takes a lot of force, or simply do a lot of volume, then these things will really pay off in less shoulder and elbow pain. If you're ~50 years or older and ripe for repetitive motion joint issues, then you ought to think about one of these.

? Now, there are at least 2 sources which you ought to consider: Dillon and Inline Fabrication. I purchased the Dillon with the nylon handle for my 550, mainly because the Inline Fab product wasn't available at the time. Then, when it came time to upgrade, the roller handle got moved to the new 650. (Actually, quite a few of the fancy options on my 550 got moved to the 650, but that's another story.)


Side Note
Dillon offers 2 different versions: aluminum handle and nylon handle. I wanted the best one (obviously) and one might naturally assume the higher-priced aluminum version to be the better choice. However, aluminum doesn't like to bear directly on steel, so there would need to be a nylon bush, needle rollers, or some way to add lubrication to separate the 2 materials. I could never figure out (and still can't to this day!) what, if anything, separated those 2 adversaries, and so I simply opted for the version that was self lubricating. So here we are 8+ years and thousands of rounds later, and the nylon handle is still rolling along, seemingly no worse for the wear, with zero maintenance. (And PS, I still have no idea how Dillon assembles the darn thing !)

 ;)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 07, 2017, 07:19:44 AM
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle.     ;)



No fooling i was debating SM  LOL. Being that  My work bench is 36 1/2'' from floor .

I use a Strong Mount on a 36" bench and love it. When you're in front of the press, the op lever needs to be at shoulder level. I like standing to reload, and with a 650 you won't be standing there long !!

 

The SM not only lets you set the machine deeper on your work bench (making it far more stable), but it's also the required option to mount the Bullet Tray and other options. I also like to get some rectangular magnets from the hardware store and plop them onto the SM. That's where I keep all the hex keys and other small setup tools. Sooo much more convenient.

The Roller Handle is really nice, but nothing else depends on it being there, so you can add that anytime.

I think the third party Spent Primer Chutes are very, very handy. What they do is route all the smutt and the old spent primers into a gallon milk jug under your bench. In this way all the trash is taken care of for you. Some scrap metal dealers will even pay you for the spent primer brass.

 ;)


 
 Great Thanks Wobbly. The idea about the magnets is Simple Yet Brilliant !!!



[Mods re-interpreted statement for clarity.]
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 07, 2017, 07:34:02 AM
So it'll be a drop shipment straight from Dillon.


I live in Atlanta which is a hotbed of shooting sports and reloading. There are quite a few local stores stocking Dillon. I usually prefer to buy locally, but in this case the purchase was made over the internet. Here's why...

1) Although local vendors stocked the 550 setup with the first caliber (one very significant way to save $ on your purchase), no one stocked the 650 setup the same way. There were apparently too many versions between "with" and "without" the case feeder.
2) The added 7 or 8% local tax was way more than shipping from Dillon.
3) 99.8% of internet orders end up being drop shipped from Dillon in Arizona anyway. Especially all the "low price" outlets. They keep the price low by not maintaining any type of warehouse or inventory.


Funny story. Just before retirement I thought to become a Dillon dealer. What could be easier? Buy a franchise, then have Dillon ship everything, while I sit at home and collect the cash. No way, Jose ! Dillon is not accepting any new dealers !! Apparently, 2 million of my closest reloading buddies all had the same idea !! Oh, well.  :P

 ;D
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 07, 2017, 07:49:05 AM
Great Thanks Wobbly. The idea about the magnets is Simple Yet Brilliant !!!


You're very welcome.

As much as I would like to think that "Simple Yet Brilliant" was a phrase that would appropriately sum up my life, I'm very much afraid that "Hot beer and Cold women" comes closer !!

 ;D
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 07, 2017, 08:04:45 AM
One way to save money on your 550 or 650 accessory purchases is to color code your Tool Heads by buying from JoferUSA. At the time of my purchase these were about half the price of the plain Dillon tool heads.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yPlH2OCrgDkUSgh4_82ZH2P-n5gvmCJZg-8GnYoVxVBGEV0Iz0XHOs8_HC2ZATSTi4ZtOU-J9T5UTyABw9jUPupzH3ixtADqy729e8x1KVlUfQXVu78St0oXUpmNirtlEW2D3GUSN8365RirGMGafiDWjgMR3-pqUHiFI2rMe3f5cHdnsWLVXyZQ6AgF2nN1lMEA3GIUsCgSODNWl9RqCRDig3pqQVABJg8vNjeNeulnTvZ6jtnKdYDETxNLwJn4-ojmYZKHrCsOeCRd8Hirh0jMDp69Mcl14MrZoPy0CcMXTspFtvWCgemIChJQR_F5DhRzMfoXrcLI-fbGDogQAfBYvckUkfpcOOnEMe6FMmO71ffVrkVL_qMyFtYdquQiulNypS17jqHFZ_qdFUx51sHP3_A1WN0IkZdAZpxrOjOPHrGjI3o41jb3q92c7WCJ60OD_ZRdq3xkVFx1gXnfnm6SZbr72GIEAEcsJNJoeds9jpm24dUjEW5w36aFJWnPzcjND90ILBmWMjctyG4q_4L1524vFTqFWI7WJUXUMAbEE0nGjRVwWexcV-w04kwmehPLSPVnQtV2cyV1TwThkPQkMiwOnLAI8VBlujEwigG52YRmyFRGkOeZZZslldhbI0nvWedyhExoThl_BGhsS20-QxyOk7VEYXk=w640-h480-no)


See the stickie thread Reloading Press Upgrades & Accessories (http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85603.msg638394#msg638394)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 07, 2017, 09:13:20 AM
Decided to put together a Dillon 650 order, moving on up from Single Stage.


The 650 is a neat piece of kit, but I doubt you'll be getting very far away from the Single Stage. As great as the 650 is, it's not an optimal press for one-off production, especially if the case feeder is attached.

Just a note to say that you may want to keep the Single Stage attached to the other end of the bench, or if you really need the bench-top space, install some T-nuts in the bench so that the Single Stage can be re-installed very quickly when needed.

So, if you had plans to put the Single Stage on CraigsList, you might want to hold off for a month or more and see how things go.

Just my 2 cents.  ;)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 07, 2017, 09:36:36 AM
Decided to put together a Dillon 650 order, moving on up from Single Stage.


The 650 is a neat piece of kit, but I doubt you'll be getting very far away from the Single Stage. As great as the 650 is, it's not an optimal press for one-off production, especially if the case feeder is attached.

Just a note to say that you may want to keep the Single Stage attached to the other end of the bench, or if you really need the bench-top space, install some T-nuts in the bench so that the Single Stage can be re-installed very quickly when needed.

So, if you had plans to put the Single Stage on CraigsList, you might want to hold off for a month or more and see how things go.

Just my 2 cents.  ;)

Yes agreed have no plans on selling Single stage press . Will use SS   for load development .
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 07, 2017, 09:37:49 AM
One way to save money on your 550 or 650 accessory purchases is to color code your Tool Heads by buying from JoferUSA. At the time of my purchase these were about half the price of the plain Dillon tool heads.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yPlH2OCrgDkUSgh4_82ZH2P-n5gvmCJZg-8GnYoVxVBGEV0Iz0XHOs8_HC2ZATSTi4ZtOU-J9T5UTyABw9jUPupzH3ixtADqy729e8x1KVlUfQXVu78St0oXUpmNirtlEW2D3GUSN8365RirGMGafiDWjgMR3-pqUHiFI2rMe3f5cHdnsWLVXyZQ6AgF2nN1lMEA3GIUsCgSODNWl9RqCRDig3pqQVABJg8vNjeNeulnTvZ6jtnKdYDETxNLwJn4-ojmYZKHrCsOeCRd8Hirh0jMDp69Mcl14MrZoPy0CcMXTspFtvWCgemIChJQR_F5DhRzMfoXrcLI-fbGDogQAfBYvckUkfpcOOnEMe6FMmO71ffVrkVL_qMyFtYdquQiulNypS17jqHFZ_qdFUx51sHP3_A1WN0IkZdAZpxrOjOPHrGjI3o41jb3q92c7WCJ60OD_ZRdq3xkVFx1gXnfnm6SZbr72GIEAEcsJNJoeds9jpm24dUjEW5w36aFJWnPzcjND90ILBmWMjctyG4q_4L1524vFTqFWI7WJUXUMAbEE0nGjRVwWexcV-w04kwmehPLSPVnQtV2cyV1TwThkPQkMiwOnLAI8VBlujEwigG52YRmyFRGkOeZZZslldhbI0nvWedyhExoThl_BGhsS20-QxyOk7VEYXk=w640-h480-no)

 
See the stickie thread Reloading Press Upgrades & Accessories (http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85603.msg638394#msg638394)


Yes and i hear they are a tighter fit than Dillon's. On my list is Quick Change Kit with stand powder measurer & tool head.

My list being i want to use Two Calipers 9mm & 45 Auto.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------
My LIST
 XL650 /9mm
 2- Dillon sets of Dies 45Auto,9mm
 650 Case Feeder Sm Pistol
 1-Lg case feeder plate
 1-Powder Check
 1-650 Quick change kit
 1-Lg primer pickup tube set of 4
 1-Sm primer pickup tube set of 4
 1-Spare parts kit
 1-Dillon XL650 Caliber Conversion 45Auto
Oh  I Almost forgot 1- Strong Mount and a Magnet .

That's going to empty my wallet.


[Mods corrected quote]
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 07, 2017, 02:38:30 PM
? When I bought my 650, I found a deal on one setup for 38 Spcl, which was one of my main calibers. My point is, don't get hung up on "XL650 with 9mm", because you're going to buy the other 2 caliber kits anyway and they are all the same price. Look for the best deal on a XL650 with [any of your calibers].

? Don't buy the dies. Use the ones you're using now. You can slowly work into that.

? Don't buy the Spares Kit... you'll never use it. I haven't touched the one I inherited in 10 years. Anything that breaks, Dillon is going to send to you for free anyway.

? Don't buy the Powder Check. The primer tubes only hold 100 primers. If you can't look at the powder measure while you're re-filling the primer tubes, then you need professional eye help.

? You will need to buy a Powder Die, which is the threaded chrome tube that supports the powder measure. You'll need one every time you buy a Tool Head. The appropriate Powder Funnel comes in the conversion kit with the shell holder.

? One set of Primer Pickup Tubes come with the press. Are you wanting extra tubes ?

? Magnets are in the hardware section of your local hardware store, usually 2 per pack for about $4. I use the large rectangular ones that are ~3/4 x 1-1/2 inches.


Hope this helps.   ;)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 07, 2017, 06:57:46 PM



? Don't buy the Powder Check. The primer tubes only hold 100 primers. If you can't look at the powder measure while you're re-filling the primer tubes, then you need professional eye help.


Hope this helps.   ;)


The powder check that i was referring was for lite charge or over charge case not the power dump.     https://www.dillonprecision.com/dillon-powder-check_8_3_23805.html
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: muncie21 on October 08, 2017, 02:02:12 PM
I like the Vibra Prime gizmo for loading primers.  Works very well with CCI & S&B primers (mostly all I reload with) Winny's are OK but don't run as well.  Once the primers are oriented correctly, it takes about 5-8seconds to get them into the tube.  From there, just align with the primer tube on the 650 and pull the pin.  Super quick and easy.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/717zLVP4GzL._SY450_.jpg)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 08, 2017, 02:39:14 PM
Yes on my wish list. You Guys are making me Sweat this is  Feeling Like  An Addiction  ;)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: FN in MT on October 08, 2017, 02:56:26 PM
 You can never have enough light.....

 https://inlinefabrication.com/collections/lighting/products/skylighttm-led-lighting-kit-for-the-dillon-650

 I do not own a 650, but run these on two 550's and my 1050. Worth the price.

 FN in MT
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: IDescribe on October 08, 2017, 04:15:35 PM
One way to save money on your 550 or 650 accessory purchases is to color code your Tool Heads by buying from JoferUSA.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yPlH2OCrgDkUSgh4_82ZH2P-n5gvmCJZg-8GnYoVxVBGEV0Iz0XHOs8_HC2ZATSTi4ZtOU-J9T5UTyABw9jUPupzH3ixtADqy729e8x1KVlUfQXVu78St0oXUpmNirtlEW2D3GUSN8365RirGMGafiDWjgMR3-pqUHiFI2rMe3f5cHdnsWLVXyZQ6AgF2nN1lMEA3GIUsCgSODNWl9RqCRDig3pqQVABJg8vNjeNeulnTvZ6jtnKdYDETxNLwJn4-ojmYZKHrCsOeCRd8Hirh0jMDp69Mcl14MrZoPy0CcMXTspFtvWCgemIChJQR_F5DhRzMfoXrcLI-fbGDogQAfBYvckUkfpcOOnEMe6FMmO71ffVrkVL_qMyFtYdquQiulNypS17jqHFZ_qdFUx51sHP3_A1WN0IkZdAZpxrOjOPHrGjI3o41jb3q92c7WCJ60OD_ZRdq3xkVFx1gXnfnm6SZbr72GIEAEcsJNJoeds9jpm24dUjEW5w36aFJWnPzcjND90ILBmWMjctyG4q_4L1524vFTqFWI7WJUXUMAbEE0nGjRVwWexcV-w04kwmehPLSPVnQtV2cyV1TwThkPQkMiwOnLAI8VBlujEwigG52YRmyFRGkOeZZZslldhbI0nvWedyhExoThl_BGhsS20-QxyOk7VEYXk=w640-h480-no)

AND they're good looking.  ;)  I don't normally give that much consideration for a tool, but in this case, they're REALLY nice looking.  They'll make you happy.  ;)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 08, 2017, 04:22:27 PM
The powder check that i was referring was for lite charge or over charge case not the power dump.     https://www.dillonprecision.com/dillon-powder-check_8_3_23805.html


You don't need no stinkin' powder check !

(I'm having so much fun just saving you money.  ;D )
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: nicky on October 08, 2017, 04:31:42 PM
HF has magnetic strips that are about 18" long that can be screwed to something close to your press for your wrenches and more. They are about $3-$4 each.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: IDescribe on October 08, 2017, 04:42:10 PM

Oh  I Almost forgot 1- Strong Mount

/cough  ROLLER  /cough  HANDLE 
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: IDescribe on October 08, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
Also, if you are not using a bullet feeder, this is nice: 

https://www.dillonprecision.com/dillon-aluminum-bullet-tray-for-square-deal-rl550-xl650_8_119_23597.html (https://www.dillonprecision.com/dillon-aluminum-bullet-tray-for-square-deal-rl550-xl650_8_119_23597.html)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 08, 2017, 04:48:04 PM
AND they're good looking.  ;)  I don't normally give that much consideration for a tool, but in this case, they're REALLY nice looking.  They'll make you happy.  ;)


Just look at how happy I am...

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 ;D
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 08, 2017, 04:56:11 PM
Yes on my wish list. You Guys are making me Sweat this is Feeling Like An Addiction.  ;)


Ahemm ! Rather than the "A-word", we prefer the phrase "being immersed in an intense and personally gratifying area of interest".

 O0
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 08, 2017, 05:01:30 PM
Also, if you are not using a bullet feeder, this is nice: 

https://www.dillonprecision.com/dillon-aluminum-bullet-tray-for-square-deal-rl550-xl650_8_119_23597.html (https://www.dillonprecision.com/dillon-aluminum-bullet-tray-for-square-deal-rl550-xl650_8_119_23597.html)

As usual, ID is correct. The Dillon Bullet Tray (sniff, sob, sniff) changed my life !

Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: IDescribe on October 08, 2017, 06:42:57 PM

Just look at how happy am...

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That looks like a lotta fun.  ;) 

And the prices are a little closer together for different colors than when I bought -- pretty much $16-18.  When I bought mine, I think it was something like $16-$24.  I might have to pick up a few more for future expansion.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: copemech on October 08, 2017, 11:39:18 PM
OMG, the rainbow coalition has taken over the reloading world! :-*
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 10, 2017, 10:21:33 AM
Decided put together a Dillon 650 order....


We can't hold our collective breaths much longer.  :-X  We need an update !
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 10, 2017, 04:47:07 PM
Decided put together a Dillon 650 order....


We can't hold our collective breaths much longer.  :-X  We need an update !

 
 I just Put my order in Last night  Bobcat Armament Kimball Bowden was recommend from a fellow NJ hunters forum member. Will get sometime next week   
XL650 /9mm  Press
Dillon Precision - Aluminum Bullet Tray
2- Dillon sets of Dies 45Auto,9mm
 1-650 Case Feeder Sm Pistol
 1-Lg Pistol case feeder plate
 1-650 Powder Check
 1-650 Quick change kit
 1-Lg & Sm primer pickup tube set of 4
 1-Dillon XL650 Caliber Conversion 45 Auto
 1- yes a 650 Strong Mount
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: shurt on October 11, 2017, 03:55:14 PM
Congrats ... you will love it!
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Matt101 on October 13, 2017, 07:40:58 AM
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle.     ;)

Don't buy the strong mount & roller handle from Dillon..... get the InlineFabrication versions instead


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Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 13, 2017, 08:51:23 AM
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle. 
Buy the strong mount and the roller handle.     ;)

Don't buy the strong mount & roller handle from Dillon..... get the InlineFabrication versions instead


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 I ordered Dillon's Strong Mount  $46.00. InlineFabrication versions is $75.00 i know its 3/16'' BUT don't need the overkill My Bench is a overkill just need for the hight. Roller handle maybe later will see if i need it.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Matt101 on October 13, 2017, 08:55:05 AM
The Inline version has removable top plates so you can mount different presses on the same mount.

Their handle is offset too which really helps the shoulder


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Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 15, 2017, 03:05:02 PM
We can't hold our collective breaths much longer.  :-X  We need an update !


When will we see pictures of the new family member ?

And don't give us this stuff...
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   O0
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 15, 2017, 03:56:51 PM
From Tracking Getting on the the 17th. Ill post pictures when i set baby blue up!
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: levellinebrad on October 15, 2017, 07:57:53 PM
I would also recommend a vibra prime for loading the primers in the tubes. I recently purchased a 1050 and was loading 10 tubes at a time. I hate loading the tubes so when a buddy of mine told me he had one he'd sell me, I bought it thinking wth. It works very well and I can load 10 tubes in about 7 minutes.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 17, 2017, 06:17:54 AM
I would also recommend a vibra prime for loading the primers in the tubes. I recently purchased a 1050 and was loading 10 tubes at a time. I hate loading the tubes so when a buddy of mine told me he had one he'd sell me, I bought it thinking wth. It works very well and I can load 10 tubes in about 7 minutes.


 Was thinking on buying But Mixed reviews holding me back?
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: walther white on October 17, 2017, 09:38:03 AM
For budget light, my home improvement store carries a small LED trouble light with a plastic hook.  I just hang it from the crimp die and I can visually verify powder level on 9mm and 380
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: IDescribe on October 17, 2017, 12:12:51 PM
I would also recommend a vibra prime for loading the primers in the tubes. I recently purchased a 1050 and was loading 10 tubes at a time. I hate loading the tubes so when a buddy of mine told me he had one he'd sell me, I bought it thinking wth. It works very well and I can load 10 tubes in about 7 minutes.


 Was thinking on buying But Mixed reviews holding me back?

I load 3-6 tubes the old fashion way before I start, depending on how many rounds I plan on loading.  It's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: muncie21 on October 17, 2017, 05:38:47 PM
Was thinking on buying But Mixed reviews holding me back?

I love mine so much, I purchased a second one, just in case...
When I first go mine, I was loading CCI SPP mostly.  Switched to S&B primers (and at the same time purchased a replacement plastic tray) and between the two changes (not sure which contributed more) the VP unit works rather boringly. 

One the primers are all oriented correctly (which is required when you're manually poking primers too) a tube gets filled in about 10 seconds; no fuss, no drama.
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: IDescribe on October 17, 2017, 11:12:58 PM
the primers are all oriented correctly (which is required when you're manually poking primers too

It's really not, though, is it?

With S&B and Winchester and CCI, they're 95-100%% oriented the right to begin with so long as I'm careful, and then Federal is 50/50 because they're stored on their rim.  Either way,  I pick up the ones that are oriented the right way, then put the lid on and flip the tray and then pick up the remainder.  I don't do the shaky shaky until they're all facing one way.  ;)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 18, 2017, 08:43:33 AM
 I would Like to Thank Everyone For your Tips and Help!!  I LOVE MY DILLON!!!
 https://ibb.co/album/hfY0aa
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: Wobbly on October 18, 2017, 10:24:39 AM
When I get a new Dillon I like to do several things to the powder measure...

? A lot of people remove the clear hopper tube and polish the metal funnel inside. I use some 320 to 400 grit emery cloth, which cleans it right up. I've not been able to tell that this does anything, but it makes me feel better.  ;D

? Dumping some powdered graphite down the hopper will lubricate the slide and get things working good. You could/should also run a cup of 231, WSF, BE-86, or some other graphite-coated power through the powder measure. You'll see that the Dillon PM settles right down and dispenses accurate powder loads within 6 or 8 "dumps". Graphite can be found in the Lock section of your local hardware store.

? This accuracy of powder dispensing is mainly due to the cam operated fly-back mechanism that dispenses the same vibration regardless of the op speed of the press. That's a very unique design feature that is highly under appreciated. You can help this by adding a VERY light weight spring to the powder bar. Such a return spring was used on the Gen 1 Dillon powder measures. See the photo.

? You can make adjustment faster, easier, and more accurate by installing a press-on plastic knob to the hex adjustment bolt. The larger the radius of the knob, the more precision the knob will be capable of. I find these on Ebay for about $5 for two knobs. See the photo.

? You can make adjustment more fool-proof by using a marking pen to add plus and minus marks to the hopper body so that you'll remember which way to turn the knob to make those final adjustments. Some knobs now come with the direction arrow imprinted on them. See the photo.

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Dillon PM with optional knob, marking, and relaxed return spring

? Powder Bars:
A) If you load both pistol and rifle, you MAY at some point want to buy another new or used powder measure so that you have dedicated measures with the large and small powder bars already fitted.
B) If you find that powder is leaking from the bar, then call Dillon CS because they offer a "tight fitting" powder bar for use with very fine powders.
C) If you load 25Auto or 380Auto and find the "small powder bar" too big, then Dillon also offers a smaller version just for those tiny loads.


Enjoy !  ;)
Title: Re: Decided To Buy A Dillon
Post by: t107 on October 18, 2017, 07:24:43 PM
When I get a new Dillon I like to do several things to the powder measure...

? A lot of people remove the clear hopper tube and polish the metal funnel inside. I use some 320 to 400 grit emery cloth, which cleans it right up. I've not been able to tell that this does anything, but it makes me feel better.  ;D

? Dumping some powdered graphite down the hopper will lubricate the slide and get things working good. You could/should also run a cup of 231, WSF, BE-86, or some other graphite-coated power through the powder measure. You'll see that the Dillon PM settles right down and dispenses accurate powder loads within 6 or 8 "dumps". Graphite can be found in the Lock section of your local hardware store.

? This accuracy of powder dispensing is mainly due to the cam operated fly-back mechanism that dispenses the same vibration regardless of the op speed of the press. That's a very unique
 
 design feature that is highly under appreciated. You can help this by adding a VERY light weight spring to the powder bar. Such a return spring was used on the Gen 1 Dillon powder measures. See the photo.

? You can make adjustment faster, easier, and more accurate by installing a press-on plastic knob to the hex adjustment bolt. The larger the radius of the knob, the more precision the knob will be capable of. I find these on Ebay for about $5 for two knobs. See the photo.

? You can make adjustment more fool-proof by using a marking pen to add plus and minus marks to the hopper body so that you'll remember which way to turn the knob to make those final adjustments. Some knobs now come with the direction arrow imprinted on them. See the photo.

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Dillon PM with optional knob, marking, and relaxed return spring

? Powder Bars:
A) If you load both pistol and rifle, you MAY at some point want to buy another new or used powder measure so that you have dedicated measures with the large and small powder bars already fitted.
B) If you find that powder is leaking from the bar, then call Dillon CS because they offer a "tight fitting" powder bar for use with very fine powders.
C) If you load 25Auto or 380Auto and find the "small powder bar" too big, then Dillon also offers a smaller version just for those tiny loads.

Enjoy !  ;)

 Thanks   ;D



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