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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Curio and Relic CZs => Topic started by: industrialteacher on November 04, 2017, 09:10:39 PM

Title: New to me Cz-27
Post by: industrialteacher on November 04, 2017, 09:10:39 PM: Purchased from a friend who wanted to sell to fund another purchase.
S/N: 302xx
All matching numbers with Nazi acceptance markings (frame, slide, barrel)
2 magazines, both marked
Bore looks new

From what I've read online I believe it to be an early 1941 production.
I'd also located a correct 1941 holster but it hasn't arrived (owie they're expensive :o )
I'll add the pictures of it when it arrives.

(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/IMG_20171104_200034%20copy.jpg)
(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/IMG_20171104_200116%20copy.jpg)
(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/IMG_20171104_200157%20copy.jpg)
(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/IMG_20171104_200321%20copy.jpg)

Supplied image of holster markings:
(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/pix298252445.jpg)

Were they grip screws strawed?.... they appear to have been but not sure.

anxious to shoot it! ;D
Title: Re: New to me Cz-27
Post by: rdcinhou on November 05, 2017, 04:22:43 AM: Per Berger, Know Your Czechoslovakian Pistols (1989) it seems you are correct in your assumption of an early 1941 manufacturer date.

The grip screws on my 1945 vintage CZ 27 are strawed.
Title: Re: New to me Cz-27
Post by: industrialteacher on November 05, 2017, 10:26:29 AM: Rd,

Thanks for the confirmation!

I know it?s a single pic, but does the holster look correct?

I came across two ?reproductions?
Both were dated 1941 but the font looked different and they had a rivet where the stitching ended.
Title: Re: New to me Cz-27
Post by: eastman on November 05, 2017, 12:02:32 PM: Pistol looks great.
Title: Re: New to me Cz-27
Post by: rdcinhou on November 05, 2017, 05:51:42 PM: Yes, the holster looks correct. Congratulations on finding one!
Title: Re: New to me Cz-27
Post by: industrialteacher on November 05, 2017, 08:51:58 PM: Sweet!

and thanks you two :)
Title: Re: New to me Cz-27
Post by: industrialteacher on November 09, 2017, 08:50:41 PM: holster arrived, unreal condition.... the quality of the leather is really nice

(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/IMG_20171109_155822.jpg)
(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/IMG_20171109_155833.jpg)
(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/IMG_20171109_155845.jpg)
(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/IMG_20171109_160010.jpg)

(http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/Cz27/IMG_20171109_155246.jpg)
Rivet with the "Star" logo

:)
Title: Re: New to me Cz-27
Post by: rdcinhou on November 10, 2017, 05:16:30 AM: What is the writing say on the riveted button snap?

From the photo it looks like cursive, but I can't make out the letters.

Could you do a "rubbing" of it and post the picture?
Title: Re: New to me Cz-27
Post by: industrialteacher on November 10, 2017, 07:52:08 AM: rd,

I believe it says "Star" but the S does look odd.
Anyways, i have read a few references to a "star" marked rivet on the original Cz 27 holsters. I don't know when it began or how long it lasted.
(only examples I've seen are dated 1941-1942)

There is currently a 1942 dated holster on gunbroker that shows the rivet details better (paint is wore off of it)

Hope its ok to post link: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/711627317 (http://www.gunbroker.com/item/711627317)
Here's another example showing the rivet http://www.ebay.ca/itm/391885214197 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/391885214197)

I'll take a "rubbing" this weekend.

edit: add url's
Title: Re: New to me Cz-27
Post by: rdcinhou on November 10, 2017, 05:19:18 PM: I zoomed in on the one close-up picture on Gunbroker.com.

That is the clearest, but has been overly polished which removed a little of the line work.

It is definitely "Star", the little leg to the left of the "S" is the crossbar of the "t".