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Title: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on January 01, 2018, 03:23:19 PM
And neither did I. We discovered that the kitty grows empty, and we must needs refill it slightly, at least to pay bills. What I always want to do is  get enough from various places to offer the Memorial to Independence big prize but we may not be able to do that this year, just keeping the lights on.
We haven't had to do this in quite some time, almost forget having to do it, BUT...I guess it's time for a fund raiser.
HOWEVER...we are moving the forum account, so stash aside anything you would like to send, (other than rotten tomatoes and spoiled fruit, you may donate those to my next door neighbor at any time), and we should have a new spot soon.
If/when you can help, it's always appreciated. If not, no worries - membership here is always free, never a cost to anyone to be here, and we appreciate each and every one of you! I also know times aren't the best, though getting better on some fronts. Been there, done that, puked on the t-shirt.  ::)
No matter what, we are glad you are here!

ETA:

If you would like to donate to the cause, you can send a check (payable to 'David Esch') to this address:

David Esch
PO Box 4105
Arizona City, AZ 85123




Please remember, this is not a business (we make nothing off of the site - quite the opposite) and also, donations are not tax-deductible.

We plan to do an annual accounting of what comes in and goes out for any who wish to know.

Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: cntrydawwwg on January 01, 2018, 04:31:03 PM
Well keep us posted when you’re ready to start accepting donations. I’m sure I can find few bucks hidden in the couch cushions
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: jameslovesjammie on January 01, 2018, 05:26:34 PM
Well keep us posted when you’re ready to start accepting donations. I’m sure I can find few bucks hidden in the couch cushions

+1

We can't do much, but we can do something!
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: 1SOW on January 01, 2018, 05:38:05 PM
When you're ready.  Do you accept IOUs? ???
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on January 01, 2018, 05:39:49 PM
When you're ready.  Do you accept IOUs? ???

No, because you owe nothing. ;)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Evolve13 on January 01, 2018, 05:53:25 PM
Glad to help.

Reach out by PM when you can.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on January 01, 2018, 06:12:31 PM
Happy to help. Just let us know when you set up the donation system.  It seems like the model of group funding but choice sure can make things work.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Vernonion on January 01, 2018, 06:37:30 PM
Set up a bitcoin wallet while you are at it!
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Ron M. on January 01, 2018, 06:46:26 PM
Please keep us informed about the account status, like several others, I'd like to help out too.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: viking499 on January 01, 2018, 07:49:41 PM
As soon as my blood detoxes from the holidays, I will donate. ;)

Let us know what, who and where.  We already know why.....to help support the best forum on the net.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Chelanace on January 01, 2018, 08:50:48 PM
I'd be glad to help out a little.  Let me know how and when!!

Thank you for letting me be here.
Title: Fundraising idea
Post by: beanz2 on January 01, 2018, 09:17:14 PM
I wonder what people think of donating CZ parts to the forum (grips, sights, etc.) and other members can buy it and sending the payment to a forum treasurer or an appointed moderator.  When the moderator receives the payment, the donor sends the buyer the part?

It can be other parts too, AR parts, magazines, etc. as long as there is some demand for it.

Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: ernie_h on January 02, 2018, 08:22:23 AM
Yes, please let us know when a mechanism for support donations is in place.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Vinny on January 02, 2018, 11:38:31 AM
+1
I've received so much help and good info from the contributing members on this forum.
Happy to reciprocate with some cash or extra parts for a fundraising auction.
Thanks.  LMK
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: burley on January 02, 2018, 06:09:37 PM
I'm sure I could find a CZ related item for auction
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: RAEIndustries on January 04, 2018, 11:57:32 AM
I donated 4$ last night on two tickets, guess i will be Saturday as well :)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: painter on January 06, 2018, 03:43:36 PM
Account info yet?
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: nicky on January 06, 2018, 04:19:37 PM
Seems like we are all ready to go. Just let us know.

I'll never be able to give enough as the amount of knowledge I acquires from here.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on January 06, 2018, 06:28:22 PM
As soon as I recover from this bug one of my loving staff members gave me, I'll get things underway.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Beak Boater on January 07, 2018, 11:09:14 AM
Just let me know how and where and its done. Like others the information I received when researching CZ pistols was spot on and priceless. Its the least I can do to give back.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: nicky on January 22, 2018, 07:57:31 PM
Hope you are having success beating that bug. I know you didn't forget to tell us about the new account. O0
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Mrs Armoredman on January 22, 2018, 08:52:44 PM
As soon as I recover from this bug one of my loving staff members gave me, I'll get things underway.

   Tell them thanks a lot for me too. I am just about over it but not quite.  ;D
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: 1SOW on January 22, 2018, 09:02:34 PM
Did you both get your flu shot....hmmmm?
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on January 22, 2018, 09:47:07 PM
Between work and flu, been fun. No, haven't gotten the new account set up yet - have to have $100 to get it running, and I need tires. However, next time is all good, and I will get that out ASAP!
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 05, 2018, 08:11:58 PM
Ok, new account is u and running. This one IS in my name, but I will be providing copies of all transactions to all Admins for perfect clarity. If you still wish to donate, make them to David Esch, ( the bank told me I had to use that name), and send to PO Box 4105, Arizona City, AZ.
It is never a requirement for anyone to donate to be a member, or pay to be a member, but we do have to pay to keep the lights on, and right now we're a little thin for regular bills, much less the memorial to Independence Day giveaway...
So thank you very much to everyone here, donating or not, you are all the very special people here who make this such an excellent forum!
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Ron M. on February 05, 2018, 08:50:15 PM
Zip code?
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 05, 2018, 08:56:33 PM
Ya know, that might be handy, right? Oopsie....85123.

Been a long day.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Vinny on February 05, 2018, 09:09:52 PM
Thanks,  I've gotten so much good info from this Forum, happy to contribute.
I'll mail a check tomorrow. And...if there's ever an on-line auction set-up, happy to contribute extra parts too.
-Vinny
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: huskerlrrp on February 05, 2018, 09:12:27 PM
Tagging this because...
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Catdaddy2 on February 05, 2018, 09:18:22 PM
I'm in. I have gain a lot of knowledge from you guys and had a few laughs along the way. I'll send a check tomorrow. Good luck in raising funds.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: tdogg on February 05, 2018, 11:17:55 PM
I should be able to send something.

Cheers,
Toby
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: 1SOW on February 06, 2018, 12:55:21 AM
Do you accept brass? O0 :)

Might be a good idea to start a new thread with the full address and check info highlighted for clarity.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on February 06, 2018, 09:01:10 AM
^^^^ Agree, just waiting to hear what has been set up for us to donate and help.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Vinny on February 06, 2018, 09:11:05 AM
Maybe a 'Help Support CZ Forum' stickie ??
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: s0nspark on February 06, 2018, 09:13:22 AM
 We are working on some other options for those inclined to support the effort. Stay tuned :)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Evolve13 on February 06, 2018, 03:14:31 PM
We are working on some other options for those inclined to support the effort. Stay tuned :)

Do you have PayPal set up?

How much do you need currently?

Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 06, 2018, 04:37:01 PM
I had extremely bad luck with PayPal in the past, very anti rights, showed extreme bias against the forum when we tried to use them for a raffle. GoFundMe is also extremely anti rights biased, too I tried GunPal and darn near lost everything there. Right now all we have is check and money order with a simple account, sorry. :(
We have a sticky at the top of this page with the new donation address  on it. If I could I'd fund this out of my own pocket just to make sure members stayed happy, but the Dept and legislature has seen fit to freeze my pay for 13 years. :'(
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: s0nspark on February 06, 2018, 06:41:22 PM
I had extremely bad luck with PayPal in the past, very anti rights, showed extreme bias against the forum when we tried to use them for a raffle. GoFundMe is also extremely anti rights biased, too I tried GunPal and darn near lost everything there. Right now all we have is check and money order with a simple account, sorry. :(
We have a sticky at the top of this page with the new donation address  on it. If I could I'd fund this out of my own pocket just to make sure members stayed happy, but the Dept and legislature has seen fit to freeze my pay for 13 years. :'(

Dude, that is wrong on so many levels... but, if it helps, I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: 1SOW on February 06, 2018, 08:00:15 PM
So,  for a check:
Mail to:  David Esch
                P.O. Box 4105
               Arizona City, AZ. 85123

On the check:??  Made outTo:  The Original CZ Forum
..,.....Donation,,....,........................
Operating expense donation.  ...................                 Signature............................

Add/Correct if not right.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Joe L on February 06, 2018, 09:36:26 PM
I made mine out to Dave Esch, as that is the (most likely fictitious) name on the checking account, per AM.
Joe
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: SlvrDragon50 on February 06, 2018, 09:37:57 PM
What about Venmo or Square? Or even Google Wallet?
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 06, 2018, 09:55:27 PM
*sigh*, because the bank said so, you have to make it out to me, David Esch...and no, not fictitious, however I am NOT the guy married to the tennis star, no idea who he is.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: 1SOW on February 06, 2018, 10:59:32 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 06, 2018, 11:25:40 PM
What about Venmo or Square? Or even Google Wallet?

I don't think I have ever heard of those - remember, I am of the tech generation that had phones with cords, on the wall, and my first computer was as a teen ager, a Commodore Vic-20. I learned compsci on Apple IIes and TRS 80s. So times pass my old wrinkled butt by pretty quick - maybe one of these might work, don't know enough to know. Our new and outstanding IT guy is checking in to some things.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Vernonion on February 07, 2018, 01:06:19 AM
Then I guess Bitcoin is out of the  question. 😜
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: s0nspark on February 07, 2018, 04:05:47 AM
I made mine out to Dave Esch, as that is the (most likely fictitious) name on the checking account, per AM.
Joe

LOL - nice, Joe! :)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 07, 2018, 04:19:26 AM
I think the value of one Bitcoin would keep use going for a few years, so yeah, not likely. :) Our members have always come through in the past, and several sponsors and vendors, too. Something about CZ appeals to the generous. ;)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Evolve13 on February 08, 2018, 12:16:31 AM
So what’s the number that relives the pressure please. 
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: 1SOW on February 08, 2018, 01:06:21 AM
I don't have a clue, but he mentioned a big Memorial Day prize for later this year.  Start there and add website and other expenses.  The amount received might drive the cost to operate  instead of the other way around. :)
Title: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: s0nspark on February 08, 2018, 08:09:54 AM
I don't have a clue, but he mentioned a big Memorial Day prize for later this year.  Start there and add website and other expenses.  The amount received might drive the cost to operate  instead of the other way around.

Obviously hosting comes first... our target there runs in the neighborhood of $425/annually.

Anything above and beyond we put towards the Memorial/Independence Day giveaway (we buy the grand prize out of pocket), shipping costs, etc.

There are some other odds and ends but those are the biggies.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on February 08, 2018, 09:53:53 AM
I’ll sneak in a donation each month. First one was this morning!
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: s0nspark on February 08, 2018, 10:45:51 AM
I’ll sneak in a donation each month. First one was this morning!

Received - thank you!
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on February 08, 2018, 11:06:59 AM
I’ll sneak in a donation each month. First one was this morning!

Received - thank you!

Most welcome. Small, but I'll hit it monthly so it adds up over the year.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: RedLizard on February 08, 2018, 02:27:29 PM
Check out my fund raising opportunity in the Classified Section.
It's a win-win!
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: painter on February 08, 2018, 08:19:53 PM
What about Venmo or Square? Or even Google Wallet?

I don't think I have ever heard of those - remember, I am of the tech generation that had phones with cords, on the wall, and my first computer was as a teen ager, a Commodore Vic-20. I learned compsci on Apple IIes and TRS 80s. So times pass my old wrinkled butt by pretty quick - maybe one of these might work, don't know enough to know. Our new and outstanding IT guy is checking in to some things.
I had a Commodore 64 as my first...but I was way past a teen...way way way past.

It isn't that hard,

Sir sonspark is teh awesome...in the current vernacular. ;D
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Vinny on February 08, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
Oohhh Man,  My first PC computer was a Kaypro, a uggge 10 megabit hardrive, 8 bit processor with floppy discs. Wow!
A relic now. Just like me. HaHa

Sent a check by snailmail.

Good that we now have Paypal.  ::)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: tdogg on February 08, 2018, 10:04:51 PM
Money donated to the PayPal account!  Thanks for setting that up!

Cheers,
Toby

Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 08, 2018, 11:00:58 PM
There has been some confusion. Please continue to send via snail mail for now, please, and a HUGE thank you for everyone who steps up, very thankful for your continued support.
Again, it is always voluntary, and never will any member be charged any membership fees for any access levels or rewards. Having you here is the highest reward we could ask for.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: 1SOW on February 09, 2018, 12:10:56 AM
paypal. :(

Hope the check info still works.......
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 09, 2018, 12:18:17 AM
The address and account are good and set up. It takes me some time to get to the post office nowadays, but when I get over there again all donations will be deposited and logged for Admins to see, so we have an accurate accounting of what our fantastic members do to help out.
I would love to win enough in the lottery to never have to do this again, or get a big enough raise to cover it. :)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: cntrydawwwg on February 09, 2018, 08:19:19 AM
So just to clarify for now.....   The PayPal account is a No-Go???
    Just curious, noticed it had been edited out.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: s0nspark on February 09, 2018, 08:41:18 AM
So just to clarify for now.....   The PayPal account is a No-Go???
    Just curious, noticed it had been edited out.

That is correct. There is concern over PayPal causing undue grief for the forum. We are considering other options but for now mailing a check or money order is the way to go.

BTW, money donated yesterday via PayPal was received and is being forwarded to Mr. A.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Joe L on February 09, 2018, 08:45:15 AM
AM--get to the PO before the ink disappears on my check!!
 :) :)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: cntrydawwwg on February 09, 2018, 02:44:29 PM
Thanks for the clarification s0nspark.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Mccian on February 09, 2018, 03:31:38 PM
A little something mailed out today......can't thank you guys enough for your time and effort, running this fantastic forum. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 09, 2018, 09:50:19 PM
A huge thank you to all - I will get over to the PO probably Monday, due to scheduling, sorry, but I will get all that properly logged in! You guys are absolutely awesome!
Yes, I had a VERY bad experience with PayPal in the past, and won't give them a dime. We are looking into alternatives in the future, but as for right now, we are still solidly 20th Century, just like me. :)  8)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Evolve13 on February 10, 2018, 10:21:21 PM
Keep asking you guys to hit me up and let me know answer to my query. 

Don’t need any more funds?
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: cntrydawwwg on February 10, 2018, 11:00:43 PM

Obviously hosting comes first... our target there runs in the neighborhood of $425/annually.

So what’s the number that relives the pressure please.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 11, 2018, 12:03:13 AM
That keeps the lights on. Extra funding sometimes gets used to "give back" to the members with giveaways.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Beak Boater on February 11, 2018, 08:21:26 PM
So just to clarify for now.....   The PayPal account is a No-Go???
    Just curious, noticed it had been edited out.

That is correct. There is concern over PayPal causing undue grief for the forum. We are considering other options but for now mailing a check or money order is the way to go.

BTW, money donated yesterday via PayPal was received and is being forwarded to Mr. A.
I sent a donation via pay pal, sorry about the confusion. Read a thread that provided a link to pay pay and sent it. After sending it I read that you didn't prefer using that. Sorry for any problem that presented and thank you for getting it to the right account or people.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 11, 2018, 08:23:07 PM
Please, no worries, very happy that you like the place well enough to donate, much appreciated. We did just repaint. ;)
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Joe L on February 12, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
So...you won the lottery after all, right?   :) :)
Joe
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 13, 2018, 02:54:24 AM
I wish.. Heading to mailbox tomorrow...finally.
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: Psyop96 on February 13, 2018, 11:43:15 AM
I wish.. Heading to mailbox tomorrow...finally.
But wait, there’s more....
Title: Re: Apparently we didn't win the lottery
Post by: armoredman on February 13, 2018, 08:46:51 PM
I picked up and deposited all the generous donations, thank you very much! We are very close to the goal of keeping the lights on for another years, indeed. I hadn't been in so long that I had to have the postal worker open the box - is PIAT to get over there.
So thank you to everyone, and we forgot to ask if anyone wanted to be publicly acknowledged, and very few people included the screen name, so we are going with Mr and Mrs. Anonymous One through Eight for now. :)
Again, thank you ll for your generosity!  8) ;D