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Offline angus hobdell

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« on: April 27, 2005, 11:14:13 PM »
Well it happened finally a revelation in loading after nearly 20 years.
I tried VV N350 in the 9mm with 125g zero JHP.
Normally I use the N310, at minor load read that 129 PF.
Today I tried the new load and almost halved my group size.
From about 3.5" at 20 yards right down under 2" at 25 yards. I was amazed.
I have my new WS load
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2005, 04:35:35 AM »
Angus.
What gun will you use in WS? What gun for Adam?
Good Luck to both. Dave.

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2005, 07:47:11 AM »
I want to use the SP01 just to cause a problem but I am sure I won't, I will probably shoot my old fatihfull 75's I ahve a fairly matched pair.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2005, 01:04:25 PM »
Angus, You will be abble to use your SP01 again for WS !!!

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2005, 04:53:40 PM »
What about those of us that shoot 147 grainers, do you think we might see the same improvement ?. What OAL and how many grains for your 125gr bullets.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2005, 09:33:42 AM »
4.9 grains with the 125 .355 zero JHP.
I do not have the lenght with me right now.
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2005, 06:17:30 AM »
Angus.
Do you shoot the JHP because of accuracy or the ability to
take down steel?
In your opinion, what bullet weight and/or nose configuration at 125m power factor, will knock down a popper best?
I have only experimented with RN and FP in 125 gr. and the
FP seams to do the best job. Thanks. Dave.

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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2005, 11:00:52 PM »
I shoot the JHP for accuracy nothing more I prefer the FMJ but it is alittle less accutate.
There will aways be a roblem with badly set steel when you are making minor minor.......
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2005, 08:17:23 AM »
If Angus is anything like his team mates on the CZ-USA Team, then he is loading close to the minimum OAL for most 9x19mm loads; that is 1.100" to 1.115".  Apparently, this is used in pursuit of maximum reliability in the CZ. Likely, the factory team knows something I do not.

I can confirm that for the profile of the following 147 grain bullets, you can load as long as 1.155" OAL & still produce reliable, accurate ammunition as fired fropm both the CZ-75B and the 85 Combat:

Zero 147 JHP & FMJ/RN
Wideners Master Match FMJ (both shapes)
Berrys/Ranier/West Coast 147 TMJ
Speer 147 TMJ
Star RN 147 FMJ (discontinued)

For lighter weights, I have run the Montana Gold 115 fmj RNs out to 1.155" OAL without difficulty.

Why would anyone load the 9mm long? A longer OAL tends to lower pressure. This, in turn allows the use of faster burning powder. Such powders are often not listed by the manufacturer or in any published load data. I load long for safety.

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, MAKE A LOAD ANY SHORTER THAN THE MINIMUM OAL IN THE GIVEN DATA. DANGEROUS PRESSURE CAN RESULT FROM SIMPLY SHORTENING A LISTED 9MM LOAD!!!
 
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2005, 01:56:40 PM »
I have some load books that list 9mm 147gr loads at 1.050, and maybe some shorter than that.  I would have to look.  But 1.100 runs great in all of mine, and doesn't hang up on the slide lock when dumping mags.