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Offline angus hobdell

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« on: January 18, 2008, 02:12:01 PM »
New from the custom shop, the P06 in .357 Sig.
Since the Shot we have v ported the 5.75" barrel to reduce recoil.
Anyone going to Shot Show call by can see it.
Available with a  standard 4.75" barrel in Sig or have it in Sig and 40 S&W.
Hammer has been changed for Custom hammer and trigger work completed.
It's a  joy to shoot. Even at 1830 FPS

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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2008, 03:45:03 PM »
fun stuff..any other cool things for SHOT??

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2008, 04:17:12 PM »
Well here are few things but we have still to get them in so keeping it quite till they arrive.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 06:37:31 PM »
Very nice! CZUB has been experimenting with the .357 SIG for a few years. Glad to see them actually offer something, or is it a CZ-USA idea?

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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2008, 08:44:00 PM »
So angus....Are Custom Shop guns publically available???
Can this be ordered?

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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2008, 05:57:34 PM »
I wonder where he got the .357 SIG ammo to get the 1830 fps number?

I've been a real fan of the .357 SIG round/concept for a number of years and still have an assortment of factory
and reloaded ammo left over from my attempt at converting a 75SA in .40 to the .357 CZIG pistol,
back when Bar-Sto was making barrels.

Given that this new P-06 is now available. MY choice would be Double Tap's:

3.5" barrel - 1415fps
4.5" barrel - 1525fps

Caliber : .357 Sig

Bullet : 125gr. Speer Gold Dot JHP

Ballistics : 1450fps / 584 ft. lbs. 4"bbl

PLENTY of power there! With low muzzle flash for the dark and scary encounters.
Something you really need with the .357 or 10mm.


I'll also note that in my area that .357 SIG ammo is quite cheap, in both JHP and
FMJ practice versions.  I see Winchester Ranger for $12 and below at most Gunshows.

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 07:50:56 PM »
not sure of the barrel length differences..
but here is Angus shooting a TS converted to .357SIG



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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2008, 03:00:06 PM »
Amazing! I've always read that the .357 SIG was accurate, much more than your .40s.. but that is just Awesome!

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2008, 03:01:04 PM »
Ammo was winchester from walmart If I remember correctly.
Thats what the chrono read you can see for yourself and I am very happy with the result from that brand of chrono.
This is offered right now by the CZ Custom Shop in Arizona, we can make the conversion on your gun or supply one I think we still have one in stock.
You would then have the gun in 40 and 357 sig

Cost depends on if you want the 4.75" shortened or left long and ported.
Contact me by email at the shop.
Angus
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2008, 03:17:04 AM »
Quote from: angus hobdell
Cost depends on if you want the 4.75" shortened or left long and ported.
 

Angus, can one get just the barrel as a replacement?  I'd love to try the 357Sig in my Compact .40 just for grins.

 

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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2008, 05:10:59 AM »
Howdy Mr. Angus,

I am with Mr. Mike, I would like to know if these 4.75" barrels can be installed in 40 cal 75B pistols too. If so I would like to get one for the 75B you did you action magic on for me, and pick up another 75B in 40 with your magic and the 357 Sig barrel. That would give me a pair to carry, which is my goal.

I did send you a pm at your store as well. Just want to cover all my bases, lol.

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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2008, 07:30:37 PM »
I gotta come up there with the camera!

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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2008, 08:32:33 PM »
Howdy folks,

For those who have debated the 357 Sig round but never had the chance to try it in any platform before, I would really suggest you do so. Felt recoil is a very subjective issue to me. But I have some medical issues that on really bad days can directly impact on how long I can tolerate shooting. For me I have found that on those days, I can fire many more rounds of 357 Sig from various platforms than I can the same guns in 40 S&W. For me the Sig round has less felt recoil.

"Experts" attribute this in part to the fact the 357 Sig is a hotter load and tends to cause the slide to operate faster than the 40 round does. For me I tend to perceive it's recoil as more of a straight back rather than the more upward recoil I feel with the 40 round. But again that is really a subjective issue. But to date, without my mentioning felt recoil with friends and co-workers, I am always happy to let folks shoot my pistols. I start them with the 40 barrel, then change out to the 357 one. All shooters have said why does a round with higher muzzle velocity not seem to have as much recoil to me?

Another real plus to me is that I fell into a great deal on the .356 Speer 125 GD bullets, which is what the factory uses in their 357 Sig round. But I really hate to simply punch holes with that bullet too. Mr. Angus has a great deal on the Zero .356 125 JHP. I purchased 3,000 of those with shipping included. Shortly I will be trying some of those, comparing them to both my reloads and factory Gold Dots. When I can fire them over my chronograph I will post the results in the ammo room for those who might have an interest.

For reloading I prefer Accurate Arms no. 9 (now Western Powders) in this round. In their reloading manual they state this is the most consistent round they have ever reloaded, and speak highly of its accuracy as well. The fact it is a bottleneck cartridge is also seen as a plus in helping to insure reliable feeding too.

I don't want to hi-jack this excellent thread at all. But I just wanted to talk a bit about the 357 Sig round for those who have wondered if it was just all marketing hype or not. To me it clearly is not, but again that is a Ford-Chevy issue in my view too. But much like I saw the 10mm and its comparison to the .210 grain .41 magnum round, tell me I can fire a round ballistically similar to the 125gr .357 magnum from a 4" revolver barrel, and it does get my attention. Contrary to some comments I have read and heard too, this is my first bottleneck handgun round I have reloaded. I have not found any problems with it being a bottleneck round, and it loads identically to me as any other caliber I load.

The fact that Mr. Angus is offering any platform in this caliber simply makes me smile wide and realize that shortly I will be able to carry my pair of 75B 40s in a round that I have high confidence in as a self-defense caliber. Thanks Mr. Angus for being willing to offer this option. For those folks with a 9mm, I guess I could best describe this round as a 9mm type loading on very serious steroids.

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« Last Edit: April 19, 2008, 08:36:59 PM by twoguns »

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Re: P06 .357 Sig
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 05:00:20 PM »
This thread needs to be revived!!
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Re: P06 .357 Sig
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2009, 05:18:09 PM »
Droooling over the pics.Wow!
 Also, I couldn't agree with you more OldCrowGunShow.

 

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