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Offline wesessiah

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2009, 05:24:23 AM »
so the general consensus is that any potential damage is due to the spring which would happen anyway and not the steel guide rod? any new input on this?

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2009, 07:23:20 AM »
Since CZ recommends not using them, why take the chance of potential damage.  In the end, there really is no advantage to having a SS rod anyway.

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2009, 03:12:45 PM »
I have the DPM recoil system and my frame shows the beginnings of these marks, with about 1500 rounds through.  Does anyone know of any damage that has affected function?

I have a theory about those marks.  From where they are, I don't see how they can happen during firing.  I think they happen during assembly/disassembly. 


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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2009, 09:25:27 PM »
I recently called CZ and was offered a SS guide rod for my P-01. I mentioned that I had heard there were concerns about using SS guide rods in alum framed pistols. The guy told me he wasn't aware of any problems and even used an SS in his on P-01, but did add that you need to use a round wire recoil spring not the flat recoil spring.

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2009, 04:32:56 PM »
the DPM recoil system does use a round spring, correct?

Thusly, it is safe then?

I am not sure about buying it if it's going to put extra wear on my pistol.   the recoil from 9mm is only worth the money, not any additional wear.

Offline PHKsCZ

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2009, 11:19:56 PM »
What, exactly, does the stainless guide rod do that the stock plastic one fails to do? I've read through the posts here regarding it and it seems like it is only a precautionary (or aesthetic) mod. Am I missing something?

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Offline pitbull

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2009, 01:17:32 AM »
The plastic guide rod must be ok. After all the P-01 passed NATO certification with it.

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2009, 01:35:09 AM »
The plastic guide rod must be ok. After all the P-01 passed NATO certification with it.

That's a very good point. Thanks.

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2009, 08:11:42 AM »
 100 % correct !
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Offline excheck

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2009, 01:40:11 PM »
Another SS guide rod pushing metal back.  Same picture as  KFD147 (11-15-08).

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2009, 08:41:32 PM »
Is that P-01 one of the special run from Gander Mtn? I noticed the silver looking lower. Also, how many rounds did you put down the tube while you had the SSGR in?


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Offline excheck

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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2009, 10:32:19 PM »
Yes, it is GM special.  300 rounds S&B FMJ 124, 200 rounds by Angus after customizing and 1000 my light  reloads.  Angus replaced flat recoil spring and plastic rod with SS and 11Lb spring.  For 100 rounds  my wife tried  9Lb spring but she get several FTF than I changed it back to 11Lb.  It is possible that recoil with SS rod and the light spring put more pressure on the frame and push the little corners  back.  I emailed this pic to Rob at CZ-Custom and waiting for his reply.     
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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2009, 11:31:30 PM »
I don't think it was the recoil spring. Mine had a factory spring in w/ the SSGR and did the same thing. I think what it comes down to is a harder metal pushing on a softer metal. I put the plastic GR back in both my P-01's and have not had any problems since. By the way I was hoping for a picture of the complete pistol.  ;D  I really want to add a GM special to my black and OD P-01's. I need some eye candy man!


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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2009, 06:33:25 PM »
Here are your pictures kfd147.  :)



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Re: SS Rod After a Period of Service.
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2009, 06:56:00 PM »
Nice ;D! I like the sights. I wish I could add that to my collection. Thanks for the pictures.


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