I have a PF-9 that I paid $219 brand new from CDNN. It has been rebuilt twice by Kel Tec for various major problems and there are a couple more factory upgrades I need to have done. I still own it because it is reliable now, but I still can't shoot it worth a darn because of the long trigger pull. I just bought a Rami P to replace it as my summer carry gun. The PF-9 will now be a truck/fishing trip gun. If I had to do it again, I would pass on the PF-9. Mike