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Offline sandmanx

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glock 17 gen4 - have they fixed the recoil issue??
« on: January 18, 2011, 10:20:19 AM »
G day all

Sorry to type out the word GLOCK here - but was thinking of getting a GLOCK 17 and can't decide on a gen3 or 4.. Was looking at
the RTF2 (gen3) but have been told hey are no longer making them for one reason or another..

Offline Rainier42

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Re: glock 17 gen4 - have they fixed the recoil issue??
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2011, 10:56:45 AM »
Have heard that manufacturing o the Gen 3s will continue for a long time since they are so popular and this is what the military has a contract for.  Still see them be sold at my local store.  Personally, would opt for a Gen 3 17 over a Gen 4 due to issues. 

Offline sandmanx

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Re: glock 17 gen4 - have they fixed the recoil issue??
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 12:17:38 PM »
it's the grip that is diff in the RTF2 - the RTF2 grip is not the same as a reg. gen3 grip!

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Re: glock 17 gen4 - have they fixed the recoil issue??
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 07:22:59 PM »
What recoil issue are we talking about here?  ???

The only recoil issue I ever had with my Gen. 3 Glocks is limp wristing sometimes, but that usually happens after a 100 round (or so) session with (hot) factory .40 S&W factory fodder.   :-[

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Re: glock 17 gen4 - have they fixed the recoil issue??
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 07:35:35 PM »
Hello there

The issue being with the new GEN4 and the new recoil springs.. Not a gen 3 issue.. so smile and dance  ;D

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Re: glock 17 gen4 - have they fixed the recoil issue??
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2011, 07:57:35 PM »
  was thinking of getting a GLOCK 17 and can't decide on a gen3 or 4.

Go over to the Glock Talk forum and do a search.
We've had several threads over there and the
double-spring guide rod "issue" has been praised
as well as reviled over there ad nauseum:P

The only conclusion I was able to draw from the many
threads is that the satisfied users of Gen 4 glocks
outnumber the dissatisfied ones like 10 to 1 or something.

But I speak from personal experience when I say that my Gen 4
Glock 17 never failed to fire nor failed to eject (FTF/FTE)
after 1,800+ rounds of various loads. I also have both the
original double spring recoil guide and the "O2" or second
version that Glock issued to owners who were "concerned"
with the "01" guide rods. Hey, it's free! And I will have to
replace the guide rod someday so why not ask for one,
right? :)

The other evident thing I discovered in the discussions is
that most of the "naysayers" who speak ill of the Gen 4,
by their own admission, do not own or have fired Gen 4 guns!
Their justification is that they won't buy a "faulty" gun but
instead accept hearsay testimonials about the "Gen 4
problems" as gospel truth. If most buyers of Gen 1 guns
were as finicky as some about the Gen 4's, there wouldn't
have been Gen 2's and Gen 3's, because rumors and allegations
would have stopped Gaston's progress dead in its track! :P

Go buy the Gen 4! It's got a fantastic grip (or set of grips)
that feels better in the hand than any "grip reduction" job!
And the double-spring guide rod reduces felt recoil significantly!

Here's my Gen 4 G17, now sporting a G17L barrel for target shooting
and a Streamight TLR-1 Strobe for home defense:


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Offline SMSgt

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Re: glock 17 gen4 - have they fixed the recoil issue??
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 01:13:58 PM »
To clear up some RTF misconceptions, there are two differet styles of RTF. The initial version, properly called RTF2 I believe, was made on a trial basic for some PD's and some made it to the local gunstores. The only ones I've seen had the "chevroned" grip grooves on the slide, also no longer available.

The initial version was rough, to say the least, and caused complaints of wearing holes in shirts/uniforms. I can't say that it did, but I did not like the feel of the texture. Many of the gripes and dismissals of RTF are based on the more aggressive version.

The current RTF on Gen 4s is toned down, has a larger, flatter texture, and is much less aggressive. I've held both RTFs, would not care for the trial version, but have no objection to the Gen 4 version.

The interchangeable backstraps on the Gen 4 are a big improvement. Some claim they're not needed, and that's true if the standard Glock grip fits one's hand. Evidently it does not for a lot of people as that is the number one complaint about Glocks. I expect to see interchangeable grips on many more handguns of all makes.

Likewise, the reversible mag release is in answer to lefties who feel left out of gun design. Problem solved.

My Glock 30 has the dual recoil spring, which works fine. I have no doubt that Glock will make (has made) it work in all calibers. It does soften recoil some. How much? That's up to each shooter.
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