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Offline canadianbacon

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Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« on: June 10, 2013, 07:15:40 PM »
Rumor has it that the RCMP is looking to reclassify the CZ-858 from Non-restricted/Restricted to Prohibited (meaning we simply can't own the rifle whatsoever).

Some folks have cited the reason is because the receivers on some of the imported guns were originally full auto converted to semi auto.

I don't claim to be an expert by any means but I sure would like to know if this extends to the CSA Vz.58.

Any thoughts?

Offline vblue42

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2013, 07:56:42 PM »
Im curious about the laws in the land of the maple leaf, what constitutes restricted and non restricted and are all detachable magazine feed weapons limited to five rounds? Regardless you friends up north need to get pissed and start fighting with calls and letters to your representatives like we did here. We all but completely smashed the gun control ambitions of the liberals in this country. No doubt they're going to keep trying but the most important fight was the first one and they lost their ass so every fight from here on is going to be harder for them to win.
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Offline canadianbacon

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2013, 08:44:13 PM »
Well, it's a little complicated.. Barrel length is a factor, handguns are restricted as well. Above all else, whatever the RCMP says goes.

Magazines are *supposed* be pinned to 5 rounds. However you can use pistol magazines in rifles (LAR-15 for instance) to increase the number to 10.

I've seen .22 detachable mags that hold 25. Our laws are basically all over the place.




Offline vblue42

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2013, 08:46:15 PM »
What is the penalty if you are caught with a 30 round mag?
VZ58 Folder With Beaver Barf

'51 Polish M44 Mosin Carbine

'44 Finnish VKT M39 Mosin

'50-'52 Yugo M48 Mauser 8mm

H&R M1 Garand 30.06

New Frontier/KAK AR15 5.56mm

Smith & Wesson M&P9

From MS Gulf Coast.

Offline BixBix78

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Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 08:47:04 PM »
......Our laws are basically all over the place.

Ahh so they have progressives making laws up North too huh? ;)

Offline canadianbacon

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 08:51:43 PM »
What is the penalty if you are caught with a 30 round mag?

I believe this would fall under "Unauthorized possession of ammunition" which can lead to a 5 year prison sentence.

Offline southpaw.parallaxscurioa...

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 01:55:53 AM »
Canadians get 5 rounds in rifle magazines, 10 in pistol magazines, and unlimited in centerfire.  M1 and Lee Enfield are exempt.  IIRC the RCMP reclassified the AP-80 (ak47 in 22lr) from non-restricted to prohibited because it looked like a prohibited (any AK = prohibited, any semi AR = restricted, vz-58 >18" = non-restricted, vz-58<18" = restricted).

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 11:14:29 AM »
I hope you guys can stop that ASAP! :'(

Offline matty86suk

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 09:24:26 PM »
I just bought the last CSA x39 non restricted from frontier, there has been 2 shipments seized this year of vz's.

Offline canadianbacon

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 10:25:51 PM »
I just bought the last CSA x39 non restricted from frontier, there has been 2 shipments seized this year of vz's.

From what I gather its only been the CZ 858's that Wolverine Supplies has tried to import. Who is the other distributor having their gear seized?

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2013, 05:59:50 PM »
CZ858 are not currently being reviewed for reclassification.

There are only two shipments in limbo in customs, and they are both for Wolverine supplies and they are the CZ 858 rifles.  The reason for being stuck in customs is unclear, but it is not because of reclassification.

From the horse's mouth (or is it pig's?):
http://www.faithgoldy.ca/swiss-arms-kriss-vector-cz-585-some-answers/
« Last Edit: June 13, 2013, 06:01:38 PM by superlative »

Offline canadianbacon

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Re: Reclassification of the Canadian CZ-858.
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2013, 05:42:40 PM »
I saw you posted that on CGN.

Thanks!

 

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