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‘Knockout Game’ Target Fights Back With .40S&W
« on: August 30, 2013, 06:35:33 PM »
"Playing" the Knock-Out "Game" with a stun gun? He got off lucky only getting butt-shot, IMO.
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A 17-year-old Michigan boy was taken by surprise when he stuck a stun gun to his victim’s side with the intent of delivering him an electrifying 1.8-million volts. However, the stun gun malfunctioned, giving the victim an opportune moment to pull out his stainless steel .40-caliber Smith & Wesson, locked and loaded with 10 rounds of heat.

http://www.guns.com/2013/08/29/knockout-game-victim-fights-back-40-cal-perp-says-just-wanna-go-home/

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Re: ‘Knockout Game’ Target Fights Back With .40S&W
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 11:16:10 PM »
I agree.

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 02:22:32 AM »
What county is this again so I know NEVER to go  there?
I don't care about the event. Its the results.
Kid tries to taze someone and it didn't work....but they didn't charge him with assault? Because it didn't work?
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 07:34:22 AM »
He has been charged with illegal possession of the stun gun which will bring him some legal penalty. He's lucky he didn't get his head blown off for his act of 5 star stupidity. Bet he won't play that game again.

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2013, 09:46:52 AM »
The last paragraph infuriates me, the liberal news media always adds "we are not sure if any charges are going to be filed"
There was a perfect opportunity to take a criminal off the streets wasted! What sick lunatic stuns strangers for fun? Imagine waking up missing teeth and a busted up face, because you went down on a curb for someone's entertainment.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 04:12:34 PM »
The last paragraph infuriates me, the liberal news media always adds "we are not sure if any charges are going to be filed"
There was a perfect opportunity to take a criminal off the streets wasted! What sick lunatic stuns strangers for fun? Imagine waking up missing teeth and a busted up face, because you went down on a curb for someone's entertainment.

Did you watch the video? A woman said she chipped her teeth after a man did that to her. Its f"ed up. You have every right for lethal self-defense since they are trying to knock you out and do god knows what to you.

play a  stupid game and get a stupid trophy
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 05:47:41 PM »
Didn't the guy who shot the Aussie jogger in OK say something like he “knocked out 5 woods since Zimmerman court"?  Was that a reference to this so-called game?  Calling the crime a game is a poor choice of a label.  At a minimum it is battery.
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2013, 05:50:09 PM »
I just don't get how you can assault someone then try to call it "a game" and act like everything is ok.
Not losing any geniuses when they pay the consequences of assaulting someone who can defend themselves.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 06:21:03 PM »
Given the video linked to in the initial post, and assuming a jurisdiction in which carry is not prohibited, how does one defend himself from such an attack?  One can't justifiable draw on anyone running up behind you.  If that were allowed, I would have potentially taken out two joggers and one bicyclist the last time I took a walk.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2013, 06:35:39 PM »
Given the video linked to in the initial post, and assuming a jurisdiction in which carry is not prohibited, how does one defend himself from such an attack?  One can't justifiable draw on anyone running up behind you.  If that were allowed, I would have potentially taken out two joggers and one bicyclist the last time I took a walk.

Good point. It would be very difficult to react to this appropriately. But I guess that's the point of the "game"
The only thing you can really do is be vigilant, give people coming up behind you plenty of room to pass you by, and hope for the best.
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Re: ‘Knockout Game’ Target Fights Back With .40S&W
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2013, 05:23:08 PM »
It's not much of a stretch to imagine going from knocking people out for fun to pushing them off station platforms in front of moving trains. 
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2013, 05:30:24 PM »
It's not much of a stretch to imagine going from knocking people out for fun to pushing them off station platforms in front of moving trains.
Sadly, I've seen this on the news before.
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Re: ‘Knockout Game’ Target Fights Back With .40S&W
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2013, 05:39:10 PM »
It's not much of a stretch to imagine going from knocking people out for fun to pushing them off station platforms in front of moving trains.

Two people were pushed in front of a subway train in Dec. 2012. One on the 5th and the second on the 28th.

New York subways are becoming the deadliest form of transportation according to one news article.

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Re: ‘Knockout Game’ Target Fights Back With .40S&W
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2013, 05:52:57 PM »
Given the video linked to in the initial post, and assuming a jurisdiction in which carry is not prohibited, how does one defend himself from such an attack?  One can't justifiable draw on anyone running up behind you.  If that were allowed, I would have potentially taken out two joggers and one bicyclist the last time I took a walk.

Good point. It would be very difficult to react to this appropriately. But I guess that's the point of the "game"
The only thing you can really do is be vigilant, give people coming up behind you plenty of room to pass you by, and hope for the best.

Sad to think we can't trust our fellow man in public but, well we can't. When out and about keep your eyes in back of your head open at all times. Situational awareness  is the key.

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Re: ‘Knockout Game’ Target Fights Back With .40S&W
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2013, 10:12:53 PM »
Was Trayvon playing the "game"?  Seems like a fairly well organized intifada.

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INTENDED KNOCKOUT GAME VICTIM SHOOTS BACK
Smith and Wesson trumps faulty stun gun

Published: 5 days ago

The newspaper in Lansing, Mich., came so close to getting it right: An intended victim of the Knockout Game pulled a gun and shot at his attacker. So far so good.

This version of the game had a twist: Instead of punching the victim in the face, the predator used a taser – a KL-800 Type Stun Gun capable of generating 1.8 million volts.

The assailants had scouted the site, the victim and even practiced firing the taser. But then it all went wrong. Or right.

When Marvell Weaver jammed the taser into the ribs of the still unidentified man and pulled the trigger, it jammed. The target pulled out his .40 caliber Smith and Wesson and shot Weaver as he tried to escape to the getaway van where two of his accomplices waited.

According to MLive.com:

“Weaver ran, sat down across the street, his leg going numb, bleeding. Pleading.

“‘I’m sorry, please don’t kill me, I don’t know why I did that, I’m high you know, I just wanna go home,’” the teen told the man who had just shot him.

He lived. This happened in May, while the intended victim was picking up his child at a school bus stop. The story came out this week.

According to MLive:

“The teen was hospitalized with a non-life threatening injury. At first, Weaver said he merely removed the stun gun from his pocket to look at it and the man shot him. He later confessed to the attack, records show.”

Mlive.com took pains to put the attack in context, citing this statistic and that trend, but in the end, it pronounced the crime “random.”

That caught the attention of MLive.com readers and others throughout the country familiar with the Knockout Game as it is played hundreds of times in St. Louis, Champaign, Chicago and dozens of other cities around the country. Said a reader:

"The “game” is not random. It is a very racially charged “game” with very strong criteria for “target” selection.

There are many, many reasons for “target” selection beyond “than they are there.” There is the inherent hatred of the participants along with their boredom and restlessness, accompanied by a “they got and I don’t, so what does it matter if I hurt them” mentality."

In St. Louis alone, a judge said one person was responsible for 300 episodes of the Knockout Game. In Oklahoma, an accused killer of the Australian college student Chris Lane tweeted that he was “playing golf” and hitting “woods” prior to the murder earlier this month. Woods is short for “peckerwoods:” White people. The Knockout Game.

He said he did that five times since the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin.

The Knockout Game is documented in “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The return of racial violence and how the media ignore it.” Many of the examples are on video, which readers of the new edition can see by scanning a QR code as they read about it in the book.

In St. Cloud, Minn., a car full of black people came upon a college student in an alley walking two girls home from the library. The car screeched to a stop, one man got out, and hit 20-year old Colton Gleason in the face. He died.

This week, Jesse Smithers told the court the attack was in self defense: Gleason and the two girls attacked his car.

In Chicago, two black people played the Knockout Game with a father of 11. He died last year.

In St. Louis last year, the mayor came upon the remnants of a Knockout Game when he found a badly beaten and bloody Matthew Quan in the gutter. Knocked Out. As he stopped his car, the black people sauntered away, laughing.

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One of the assailants was arrested but the charges were dropped after a witness disappeared. The mayor said she was threatened.

The accused assailant died earlier this year when he was shot while breaking into someone’s house. He was 15. His grandfather said he was a good boy and this was another case similar to Trayvon Martin: a black person shot for no reason whatsoever.

In St. Louis earlier this year, a black person was sentenced to life for the Knockout Game death of a 72-year old Vietnamese immigrant.

In Alabama earlier this year, four members of the national championship football team were kicked out of school after three admitted to playing the Knockout Game two times on campus.

In Syracuse, a man died this year after a black mob kicked his eye out playing the Knockout Game. This prompted a commentary from another resident of that city talking about his son’s experience as a victim of the Knockout Game.

In Pittsburgh last year, several black people were caught on video punching a teacher in the face as they passed each other in an alley. That happened twice: Earlier that year, another teacher was almost killed as he slipped and fell in traffic while fleeing the Knockout Game, on video.

Last year in Meriden, Conn., DeAndre Felton and his friend thought they found an easy mark for a bit of the old Knockout Game. They chose the wrong guy: He pulled a knife and killed DeAndre and wounded the other attacker. The attackers’ parents said their children were innocent, just like Trayvon.

The list goes on and on. Mlive.com says this kind of evidence is “anecdotal.”

But anyone looking at the hundreds and hundreds of anecdotes knows this: The victims can be white. Or Asian. Or women. Or homosexual. But this much they have in common: All of attackers in the Knockout Game are black.

But MLive.com wanted no part of that uncomfortable truth. Neither did some of its readers. “Please don’t tell me you’re bring[ing] the race card into play,” said one. Other said that perhaps Weaver could have taken the victim’s gun and done even more damage.

Whatever the merits of ignoring the intensity and frequency and racial angle of this crime, some gun owners were happy with the story nevertheless.

“MLive is great on firearms issues and crime coverage,” said Barry Shickinger. “And as a disclosure, I’m the executive director of the Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners –Michigan’s largest state-based gun group and ally with the National Rifle Association.”

While the people of Lansing try to sort out the best way to protect themselves, the prosecutor is trying to figure out how to charge Weaver.

Weaver’s two accomplices – the ones who drove him and helped him scout the victim and watched the attack – were not charged. And some in Lansing worry Weaver may get off easy as well.

Because the intended victim was not harmed, and there was “no evidence” Weaver wanted to rob him, prosecutors will not charge him with robbery or aggravated assault. A plea bargain conference is set for next month.

Weaver is sorry, he told the victim in a letter:

“I don’t blame you for what you did. You were only trying to protect yourself. I only wish I could go back to change it to were (sic) I never did it. .. Im very sorry.”









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