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Offline schmeky

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Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« on: December 04, 2013, 08:38:38 AM »
Does anyone make an extended FP for a Kadet?  If not, I am going to design a new one and have a batch made.  Please let me know if one already exists.

Offline Stuart

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 09:10:22 AM »
A forum member was a making a few ( I am blanking on who ) , but no one is making one on a stocking basis.
be a nice niche to fill. I'd be in on  a couple.

Offline ace73

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 11:05:51 AM »
I'd be in for one too!

Offline DenStinett

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 12:50:39 PM »
A forum member was a making a few ( I am blanking on who )

Not sure, but I believe Joe (75plus) has turned a few for testing

If I were to turn one, not only would I add a little to the Tip length, but I'd make the Hammer end as long as it can be and still allow for servicing  ( i.e. removing and installing the Stop )
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Offline Stuart

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2013, 01:00:06 PM »
Yes..it was Joe.
thanks for the memory jog.

yes was thinking longer tip, longer rear end.
if can figure out how to make the Kadet run with light hammer spring. that would be a game changer in all this.

Offline Joe L

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2013, 01:09:42 PM »
Stuart and Schmeky--I tested an extended pin and a light spring with both 13 and 15 lb hammer springs without total success, I'm afraid.  I would have to check my notes, but I think the 15 was good for about 90-95% firing and the 13 was not usable.   I went back to a 17 hammer spring.  I think that is correct. 

I would love to be able to use the same springs as for a competition gun, but I don't know how to do it.   

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« Last Edit: December 04, 2013, 01:35:40 PM by Joe L »
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Offline painter

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2013, 01:33:08 PM »
Does anyone make an extended FP for a Kadet?  If not, I am going to design a new one and have a batch made.  Please let me know if one already exists.
I'd buy one along with a lighter spring if you could come up with a combo that would let me use even a 15lb hammer spring. I still get the occasional light strike with a stock hammer spring.

The heavy hammer springs also make the Kadet difficult to rack the slide with the hammer down.
I had the right to remain silent...

but not the ability.

Offline JonNC

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2013, 02:43:42 PM »
I've had this on the back burner for a while (sadly, making a living takes up my time lately).
Joe is right, the FP isn't a one part solution.

1st - You have to make sure that the barrel is location properly, so that the bolt impacts the slide, not the chamber end of the barrel.
2nd - Extended Firing Pin (for experimentation, it would be nice to have the same lengths but one standard weight and another lightened version.)
3rd - Reduced power firing pin spring
4th - (possibly) heavier hammer itself

It'll have to be a package deal.

I really wish I had time to mess with this...

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Offline Stuart

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2013, 03:08:44 PM »
Joe, that was my same experience when experimenting with your pin.

I had your longer pin, played with some reduced length firing pin springs, shadow hammers, and some TS hammers for weight. checked barrel play, etc.

still was not the reliability I wanted.

Offline bozwell

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2013, 04:40:43 PM »
If someone gets it sorted out, I'd be in for one.  My Shadow is great with the Shadow slide, but I tend to get several light strikes every magazine with the Kadet slide.  I could up the main spring, but I like the trigger the way it is.

Offline CoGT3

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2013, 06:45:15 PM »
I will echo everybody else's comments.  If you guys can work out an extended fp/ spring combo to get us down to just 15lb main spring I would be all over it.  I have a 18lb ms in now to make the kadet 99%reliable, but really is a disservice to all of Stuart's hard work on the light DA pull. 

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2013, 12:20:44 AM »
I'm a buyer for one or two if this takes off.  Would love to get my dedicated Kadet trigger as close as possible to my wonderful 75B 9mm with your CGW parts.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2013, 12:46:59 AM by thomben »

Offline Googe1227

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2013, 10:14:33 PM »
I'm in as well If I can ever get my hands on a Kadet!

Offline schmeky

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2013, 10:21:27 PM »
It's a go.  I have submitted the extended FP for some prototypes.  I am also having a dedicated Kadet FP spring wound for the new Kadet extended FP.

Might as well do it right the first time.  Goal is to have a reliable Kadet FP that will work with an 11.5# or 13# hammer spring.

Offline Stuart

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Re: Extended Kadet Firing Pin
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2013, 10:51:08 PM »
boom, and there it is. Going to be a great 2014.