Author Topic: WELDING SERVICE for vz2008 & vz58  (Read 38844 times)

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Offline Knife Wounds

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2014, 11:28:34 PM »
Morgan was vey fast and easy to communicate with and the turn around time was amazing, under a week.  I give all service work 2 weeks before checking on any status and my carrier returned right after i dropped it in the mailbox.  My VZ runs wicked reliable and I would do business with this professional again.  I did smooth down the tab with a bit of 600 grit sanpaper but it was fine running as recieved.  Thanks!

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2014, 10:54:29 AM »
Thanks for your thoughts RSR, I have actually preformed that process before however I have not tested the results yet.  I have a VZ compact project that has been sitting on a machinist's bench now for over a year and nothing. :(  On it I have replaced the charging handle with that of end of one of the bolts that hold the fixed stock in place, so imagine beautiful fine threads and no strange nub at the end.  Since the VZ compact isn't up and running, I have not had the opportunity to see if it wont fly off.  :)  As soon as I get the 'compact' blasting away everyone with get to see it.

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Any progress on this service along with the tabbing?  What about a drilled and tapped left hand charging handle rather than welded?  Or drilled, press in, and welded, so one is not only relying on the weld?  Is there even room to do such a thing?  The Czech's should have put the charging handle on the left when they designed this gun.

Offline jwc007

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2014, 07:55:32 PM »
  The Czech's should have put the charging handle on the left when they designed this gun.

That would have been my preference as well, like my L1A1 FN FAL's charging handle.  May look into alternatives down the road for my Vz2008.
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Offline RSR

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2014, 01:12:11 PM »
  The Czech's should have put the charging handle on the left when they designed this gun.

That would have been my preference as well, like my L1A1 FN FAL's charging handle.  May look into alternatives down the road for my Vz2008.

FALs were probably one of the first modern rifle's with the left hand charging handle...  FALs in general are exceptionally ergonomic/user-friendly, excluding the length and caliber (some also complain about mag insertion, but I like tilt and rock as I don't have to worry about my mags falling out...).

The VZ58s' charging handles are on the right as that was one of the mandatory project requirements from the get-go.  The whys here are b/c they didn't want the rifle to get hung up on or otherwise have any malfunctions while on a sling/transition from a sling.  Slings on this rifle were intended only for carry as best I can gather.
I'm guessing that this is the very same reason why the Garand, M1 Carbine, M14, M1A1, Ruger 10/22, Ruger Mini 14, etc., actions also all have the right side charging handle. 

Well, and at the time of design, warfare doctrine had recently moved from the 1000 yard capable rifles of world war 1 to the 300-500m rifles to world war 2, to post world war 2 the sub/intermediate caliber rifles which were predominantly designed for w/in 300m. 
And then current history, we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan with most troops were equipped w/ 20" barreled M16 rifles, with the M4 14.5" carbine not being widely adopted by the US military until 2002 (think less than 20k in service prior to Iraq Invasion).  The type of urban conflict in Iraq in particular is what led to the widespread adoption, perhaps even fanaticism, of short barreled ARs....
And even now, the M4a1 improvements have not been fully implemented military wide (and despite proven reliability gains and drop in mods available, the M4a1 is still not short stroke piston driven, nor is it running a better performing short(er) barrel cartridge like .300 BLK...). 
So still, in a lot of ways, the VZ58 remains ahead of it's time -- if you give it a fresh outfit.
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Offline TJNewton

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2014, 05:22:04 PM »
I just received my tabbed carrier from Morgan and I am very happy with the results.  Preliminary range test was 150 rounds without a hitch.  Excellent work.

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2014, 11:02:50 PM »
Just had my second carrier tabbed.  Excellent work.  Highly recommended.  Thanks, Morgan.

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2014, 11:07:19 PM »
For any "doubters", here is an example of Morgan's work:





I mailed the bolt carrier to Morgan on Friday (8/15) and received it back today (8/22), so only 7 days total.

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2014, 05:28:59 PM »
I just got back from the range today having tested my newly tabbed bolt carriers.  Gremlin gone!  Morgan does excellent work.

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2014, 03:43:24 PM »
I sent 2 in to Morgan, which should arrive to him today or tomorrow.  I will post photos, comments after I get them back and run a couple hundred rounds through them.  I have been getting failures to fire on one of them in about every 1 or 2 magazines.  Stay tuned  8)

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2014, 09:44:59 PM »
You won't be disappointed. He did two for me and my VZ2008s run like champs. Take his advise on smoothing the tabs.

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2014, 03:42:01 PM »
I just created an account to report - do not hestiate in dealing with this gentlemen. Communication was excellent, the work done was fantastic and affordable. My vz 2008 didn't have the gremlin yet.. but i wanted a carrier tabbed for peace of mind. Here are some of my photographs of his work.

Turn around time was 2-2.5wks.. which was perfectly acceptable to me.











Cheers.

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2014, 12:23:49 AM »
WOW!!!!  Did I do that?!!!  Lol, great photos, thanks for the props.

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2014, 02:48:21 AM »
I had my bolt carrier tabbed by Morgan about a month ago. Finally made it to the range yesterday, and my VZ2008 ran perfectly. Yesterdays range session was totally different than my previous. No more fire one or two rounds and have to rack the bolt and carrier. Thanks again Morgan, excellent workmanship and fast turnaround.

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2014, 07:42:07 PM »
Thank you!

Offline Garand1957

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Re: VZ58 Welding Service
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2014, 01:05:20 PM »
Just got my carrier back from Morgan.
Very nice work  ;D

I would highly recommend his service.

 

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