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Offline bugboy

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Make a 40P from P-01 and 40B?
« on: November 14, 2014, 04:29:49 PM »
I have a P-01 that I really like. It has had some Cajun parts including F/O front and EZ/D rear and some home polishing.

I have the opportunity to acquire a 40B slide assemble real cheap. I was thinking this might be useful as a versatile pistol,,,, I could run it as a P-01 9mm, or a 40P with the new slide and either existing 9mm mags or some .40 mags I have on hand or I could put my Kadet kit on for a .22.  Basically 3 calibers on one frame.

It appears that the slide needs some fitting to the P-01 as it is tight.  When assembling the 40B top to the P-01 the recoil guide rod sticks out the front.  Is this a case of just needing to shorten up that rod to fit the P-01 frame?

I understand that I'll need a bushing and have found some delrin tube stock that is 5/8" o.d. x 3/8 i.d. that I think we can make work as a bushing.

Is there anything else I need to consider before I decide to buy this slide to make a "home made 40P"?

If there are too many issues,,,, is there a market for a used 40B slide?
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Offline AZ_CZ

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Re: Make a 40P from P-01 and 40B?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 09:20:15 PM »
I'm surprised you even got the 40 cal slide on a 9 mm frame with a decent fit. It was my understanding the frames were made so you could not put a 40 slide on a frame designed for the 9. I thought the 40 frame was wider but then why would your slide be tight? CZ also had to alter the P-01 frame the to work with the B slide, but don't recall what it was. Only thing I know for sure is that it does not go together the same. You have to use the additional frame guide mark to line everything up.
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Re: Make a 40P from P-01 and 40B?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 03:07:37 PM »
I emailed a well known CZ guru and he said he thought mating a 40B slide to a P-01 frame should work, so I got to work this morning.

With some light file work and a lot of stone work, I've got the 40B top end on the P-01 frame.  I put some rounds in a .40 mag and hand cycled them through. Everything seemed OK.

Now I just have to find/make a bushing and I will be ready to test it and/or blow my face off. 

If this works I'll have a P-01 frame that I can run with 9mm, .40 S&W or .22 lr with just the swap of uppers and mags. Going back and forth between 9mm and .40 I can actually use the same magazines. It will have to become my new "walking dead" pistol due to the ability to use any of 3 different calibers.
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Re: Make a 40P from P-01 and 40B?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2014, 01:25:33 PM »
bug guy,

Bushing???  not following your thought on that subject.    I can tell you I have a PO6 and 75b ea. in 40S&W,   I can put either slide on either frame and shoot.  So, I think your pretty good to go.    I have actually considered getting a 9mm upper slide to drop on my 2 guns.  just for fun and ammo options..  MY concern is somehow forgetting and loading the wrong cartridge in the gun at the wrong time.   i.e  a .40 in the 9mm slide or visa versa.   that would be bad.  and the only thing keeping me from doing.   I would like to shoot a CZ 9mm sometime.   I lov the .40S&W and recoil in easy to handle..  althought I do prefer my ammo to be slow and heavy, vs light and uber fast..  my preference based on my research and knowledge base.

so have fun,

keep us all posted!

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Looks like it may work
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2014, 11:47:15 PM »
I've gotten the 40B slide stoned down to where it fits and rides the P-01 frame pretty well.

I've procured a piece of 5/8" delrin to make a bushing.

Just need to shorten the 40B full length guide rod and shorten the 40B recoil spring and try it out.

I have tried the firing pin launching the pencil trick. I fired a primed case. So ignition is good to go.

I have hand cycled live ammo from the magazine through the gun and cycling/feeding seems to be good.

It looks like I may have a good candidate for a "SHTF pistol". One that with a slide/mag change can go from 9mm to .40 S&W to .22 lr.
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IT WORKS w/ pics
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2014, 02:35:17 PM »
Well it works. My brother got a good deal on a 40B upper and gave it to me since I have a P-01.

With some filing and stoning and polishing I fitted the 40B slide to the P-01 frame. I ordered a 5/8" delrin rod and we made a couple of bushings. After waterfowl hunting today, I put 1 round in a magazine and fired it. All was OK.  Loaded 3 rounds - all 3 went good. Ejection was about 6-8 feet.

Now I have a P-01 as it came from the factory with:
 an additional .40 S&W upper that converts it to a 40P
 a Kadet Kit for .22 lr.





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P-01 + 40B slide = 40P
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Re: Make a 40P from P-01 and 40B?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2014, 03:32:40 PM »
Nice!
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Re: Make a 40P from P-01 and 40B?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2014, 10:42:38 PM »
That is cool, and I'm glad you didn't blow your face off.  (your words, not mine!)  8)

So what is with needing the bushing?  That part I don't understand.   Very cool setup.
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Re: Make a 40P from P-01 and 40B?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2014, 11:12:01 PM »
The bushing is to limit the rearward travel of the slide.

Since the 40P (which this P-01 becomes when I swap the .40 slide on to it) is a "franken-gun" of parts from the CZ parts bin, the bushing is required to keep the slide from travelling to far.
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Re: Make a 40P from P-01 and 40B?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2014, 01:00:37 PM »
Yea! Pulled out the 40P and the 9mm PCR and the Kadet slide fit great. It's a Black Friday miracle, 2 "new" guns for $0.00. Not sure what I will do with the info, but it's an interesting factoid.
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Refinished 40B/40P Upper
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2014, 05:56:42 PM »
Since the polycoat was not great on the 40B upper (and I was wanting to try the titanium Gun Kote to check color) I decided to refinish the upper.

Photos aren't the best but the light was gone outside by the time I was done so I took pictures inside.

"Titanium" Gun Kote with "Flat Black" on the sights
With flash:




Without flash:






I've got 4 CZ 83s to do next,,,,, and maybe my Citadel 1911.
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P-01 + 40B slide = 40P
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Offline Tok36

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Re: Make a 40P from P-01 and 40B?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2014, 06:48:40 PM »
^^ Cool project bugboy. Thank you for the coverage and the pics.
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