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Offline Gussy

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453 Before and After
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:06:57 AM »
I refinished my 453. It is possible to improve CZ poor finish.










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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2015, 08:03:29 AM »
Nice grain.

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453 Before and After
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 08:29:33 AM »
How did you lighten the checkering?

Looks much better imho.
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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 01:14:34 PM »
I did not lighten the checkering. I used Zip Strip (Ace Hardware), using a brush on the checkering. After it was all striped, and sanded, the wood was a very ugly gray brown. Be very careful not sanding checkering. I used Watco Danish Oil in Dark Walnut, used it like a stain. Watco is very forgiving, I put three or four coats sanding with 400 wet dry sandpaper. Building up a good slurry to fill pores. Do not wipe off until the Watco is a little tacky. If it gets too hard to wipe down just put some more Wacto on it then wipe down and hand rub. When it was the color I wanted, I used hand rubbed Tru-Oil. Unlike CZ finish, all and I mean all the pores are filled.

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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2015, 01:26:06 PM »
Gussy--That looks great!!  Thanks for posting your results, with good photos.

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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2015, 08:54:46 AM »
Beautiful!


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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2015, 04:56:10 PM »
Looks great!

How difficult was it to remove the butt pad and spacer?
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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2015, 10:50:57 PM »
Looks great! 

I'm headed to the gun cabinet now to see if my 455 UL might have nicer wood than I gave it credit for.

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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2015, 10:05:08 PM »
Gussy, that is beautiful! what an incredible piece of wood under that dark stain. You did a great job bringing it out. My 527 has nice looking wood with the factory finish, you are making me wonder what it would look like if I gave it that treatment.

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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2015, 09:57:42 PM »
Looks great!

How difficult was it to remove the butt pad and spacer?

I did not remove the pad, or the spacer. You need to keep it cleaned up after ever coat. I used 600 wet dry paper, very ,very careful.

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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2015, 10:43:45 PM »
Gussy, that is beautiful! what an incredible piece of wood under that dark stain. You did a great job bringing it out. My 527 has nice looking wood with the factory finish, you are making me wonder what it would look like if I gave it that treatment.

I have a 527, but it has better wood and equal or a better finish than 453. I just got the 527, that what made me re-finish the 453. I seems that when you purchase CZ you get a crap shoot on the finish and grade of wood. If you have a stock that the grain is not filled in and you can see grain that is hidden by some poor finish. If it was me, I would re-finish it. I ether re-finish or re-stock it, I hate ugly guns. This is my 527. Also when you have 10-22, that you can not make look good you can re-stock it. It was re-finished with Watco Danish Oil and Watco Poly Wipe. However it still shoot like a stock barrel 10-22, not even close to the 453.










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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2015, 10:59:02 AM »
Gussy,

Back in the '70's, there was a place in Phoenix where you could build your own guitar, Juan Roberto School of Luthiery. John Roberts used Watco Danish Oils for finishing all his guitars, using a similar technique of many sessions of rubbing in the oil with 400+ wet/dry black paper, and after a few sessions, used just a shiny paper he had a huge roll of to rub the oil deep into all the pores. It really did make a difference in the sonic qualities of the instruments from what I could tell.

I refinished an old Marlin bolt action with the Watco's and it still has a beautiful luster that I so appreciate. I may just do the same with my 550 now that I see your results, though it has a nice factory finish. I just think the oil finish is more durable and looks better than sprayed on coatings.

Nice work, and thanks for sharing. Nicest looking 10/22 I've seen, great stock!

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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2015, 09:58:01 PM »
I don't usually play with wood finishing, but would a pint of Watco Danish Oil and a pint of Poly Wipe be enough to finish a few stocks?

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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2015, 10:35:23 PM »
Gussy,
Back in the '70's, there was a place in Phoenix where you could build your own guitar, Juan Roberto School of Luthiery.

Still there, drove by last week. http://www.roberto-venn.com

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Re: 453 Before and After
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2015, 06:14:56 PM »
I don't usually play with wood finishing, but would a pint of Watco Danish Oil and a pint of Poly Wipe be enough to finish a few stocks?

A pint will last you all your life. The two pints will likely finish 100 guns plus. I used air brush to apply the Poly Wipe. I do not think I well ever use it again. Just don't like the Weatherby type finish.

 

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