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Offline copemech

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83 mags
« on: October 08, 2016, 11:09:05 PM »
What are they worth? I saw a couple today in the clearance bin at LGS for $15 ea.

Appear new, but no writing on them. Might be a good deal for someone?

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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2016, 11:55:35 AM »
Are they legit mags from CZ?

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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2016, 12:09:12 PM »
If they don't have the crossed cannon symbol the price is right and function is a crap shoot.
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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 10:15:38 PM »
Actually factory CZ83 (.380) mags don't have the crossed swords.  I have a couple mags from my original 1990s vintage CZ83, and they don't have them.  Factory mags don't have a front and rear seam visible, though.

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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2016, 02:27:40 AM »
As mentioned above, CZ 83 mags don't have the crossed swords as that's the military property mark and CZ 83s were made for the commercial market unlike the CZ 82s.

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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2016, 01:02:11 AM »
Actually factory CZ83 (.380) mags don't have the crossed swords.  I have a couple mags from my original 1990s vintage CZ83, and they don't have them.  Factory mags don't have a front and rear seam visible, though.

I do not recall a seam on these either!

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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2016, 10:30:19 AM »
Yes, look for mags with no seams running vertically on the front and rear.  Also, on new genuine factory production mags, you will have the side indentations at the bottom.  There are some older ones that don't, but have the crossed swords towards the side bottom, those are genuine also.

Genuine mags of any year run around the $40 range, you get what you pay for.  I would rather spend the money to get genuine knowing best functionality and reliablity.  I've heard of many issues that happen with the non genuine mags, even the "better" ones.

Look for the below combination of mags to assure it's genuine and best functionality (CZ 82 mags new and old are interchangeable with the 83):

Genuine mags:
Side Indentations at bottom, no crossed swords, no seams. (Newer genuine production)
Side Indentations at bottom, crossed swords, no seams.  (a little older genuine prod)
No side Indentations at bottom, crossed swords, no seams. (much older genuine prod)


Non-Genuine mags:
Mags that say "mfg CZ" on the bottom are not genuine and have noted issues.
Any seams, usually running vertically along the front and rear of the mag are not genuine and are seen with the mfg CZ mags.

Some experts may be able to identify more and add to this, but this is what I saw after buying 5 surplus CZ 82's, which have mag interchangeability with the CZ 83.
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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2016, 07:41:02 PM »
Good summary.  I have all three varieties.  I also have some older ones with seams front and rear, but CZ style base plates with no markings (unlike the garbage "CZ mfg" cheap knock offs.  I have had them for years.  I replaced followers and springs with factory ones, and they run pretty well.

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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2016, 09:05:49 AM »
My factory new CZ83 (.380) came with TWO (2) California Compliant mags (10 rd).

They have no seams, no markings except for a backward "1" and "2" inside the plastic base of each.

As I also have a CZ82 and have enough full-capacity mags for both pistols, I am willing to GIVE these two CA-compliant mags to a good home.

Please send me a PM if you are interested.
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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2016, 01:12:27 PM »
I'll take them if still available.......unable to send a PM to you, there is a red
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Re: 83 mags
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2016, 02:49:13 PM »
I'll take them if still available.......unable to send a PM to you, there is a red
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I got your PM and replied.  The RED [X] I think just means you can't send email to me.

The Forum system sent me an email advising of your PM.
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