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Offline Cipivts

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P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« on: December 23, 2016, 02:44:39 AM »
Hi everybody, am new into guns and looking to get my gun license early Jan.
I regularly shoot 25m fixed targets at my local range and among the the pistols i tried ( sig 210, 220, glock19, cz p09 and cz shadow 2) the 2 CZs really stand out with great ergonomics, overall feeling, looks and mostly accuracy.
Very impressed with the shadow 2 although a bit pricey 1230,- here vs p09 at 650,-
I would like to progress and do some IDPA OR IPSC shooting so looking for advices what would be better for me.
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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2016, 06:46:47 AM »
I don't do competition, but, depending on where you live, you can get aftermarket parts for the P09 that many people say will transform the action itself (SA pull weight and fell and DA pull weight).

Check out the CZ Custom and Cajun Gun Works web sites to see the kinds of stuff that is available.

You'll get differing opinions, based on people's experience with different pistols and their shooting skills/habits.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.  So, if you see me walking the dogs with my SIG 556R, its okay.

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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2016, 09:29:10 AM »
The Shadow2 is to heavy for IDPA by about 5 ounces and does not fit any of the Divisions.  The gun is a purpose built handgun for IPSC Production.  The gun has met with mixed reaction here in Canada from what I can see.  If you are intent on shooting both sports then the regular SP-01 Shadow is the better buy.

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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2016, 12:02:11 PM »
I used my stock P09 in IDPA last season, very successfully. It's one of my favorite semis. While my P09 is stock, my P01 omega has had some of CGW's Magic applied and it's simply amazing. I mention that because you can get a CGW tuned P09 for less than the shadow 2 price you mentioned.

Plus you can use it in both USPSA & IDPA. ;)

Good luck.

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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2016, 12:59:25 PM »
If you shot the P-09 well initially and like the feel and fit in your hands, I would go with that as a first competition pistol.    It is good out of the box, and you can easily modify it later yourself if you like, using excellent aftermarket parts. 

I really like the all steel CZ's as well, but you can always trade for one later if you wish.

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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2016, 01:47:39 PM »
The Shadow2 is to heavy for IDPA by about 5 ounces and does not fit any of the Divisions.  The gun is a purpose built handgun for IPSC Production.  The gun has met with mixed reaction here in Canada from what I can see.  If you are intent on shooting both sports then the regular SP-01 Shadow is the better buy.

Take Care

Bob

This is a great answer!  The weight of the Shadow II will be an issue in IDPA.  If I were going to buy a competition dedicated pistol, I would go with the SP-01 Shadow.  Also, make sure it's not an Accu-Shadow,  the barrel bushing makes it IDPA illegal. 

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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2017, 04:29:40 PM »
Got the Shadow 2 finally, i am happy with it!!

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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2017, 11:32:14 AM »
Congrats- let us know how you perform with it at some matches
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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2017, 05:23:57 PM »
I vote P09

I have a P01, P07, Shadow Custom, and a P09.

The P09 is softer recoiling than the Shadow Custom. It's aggravating that a sub $600 pistol beats out a $1200 pistol but it does.

They both are good but they shoot and feel different. The P09 is softer shooting but the shadow can snap back on target faster.


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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2017, 07:31:07 PM »
Good luck with your new Shadow.
I shoot a Cajonized P09 in IDPA and an Akai SP-01 Shadow in USPSA. BOTH great guns for competition.


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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2017, 06:24:53 AM »
Why not use same gun for both?

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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2017, 07:06:57 PM »
I have. The Shadow I have is IDPA legal. I just like mixing it up a bit.
I'll most likely start using the P10c for IDPA when they start to ship. I'll also start shooting an Evo in PPC.


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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2017, 08:51:41 PM »
I have never shot a p09 . It is hard for me to understand how a lighter gun have less recoil
 

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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2017, 08:53:30 PM »
And pretty sure shadow 2 is not legal for IDPA.

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Re: P09 vs shadow 2 for IDPA or IpSC
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2017, 07:49:36 PM »
I have never shot a p09 . It is hard for me to understand how a lighter gun have less recoil

You can believe it, it is true. The polymer frame absorbs a lot of recoil. Mine is softer shooting than any of my Shadows. I had to buy one to realize this.