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Offline Jpknj

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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2017, 10:33:52 AM »
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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2017, 10:27:32 PM »
I was curious if this was possible as well. After looking at the parts diagrams for both the P-07 and P-09 it appeared that a grip chop would be possible. I used my P-07 for measurements and a dremel to make the cuts on my P-09 grip. A new hole needed to be drilled for the main spring plug pin. The main spring plug on the P-09 needed to be shortened to match the P-07's. The P-07 back straps and magazines fit and the pistol functions flawlessly.

The grips on the P-09 were just too large. Now they are perfect.










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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2017, 11:50:35 PM »
 Dang, good work man. I used to do that to Glock 17's and chop 19's to 26 length for customers. For certain roles they worked great.

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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2017, 08:33:32 AM »
Looks good, too.  If it works, that's the important thing.  But it looks good, too.  Home run.

I sent my P09 off for the RMR milling, installation, cerakoting first (didn't want to chance my EDC P07).  The P09 worked so well I then shipped my P07 off for the same work.  While the P07 was gone I carried the P09.  The grip/magazine sticking out was about impossible for me to hide, comfortably. 

The barrel/slide sticking straight down was no issue, but the magazine/grip frame sticking out (front = AMIII, back = IWB) was bad.

Looks like you've got yours ready to go.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.  So, if you see me walking the dogs with my SIG 556R, its okay.

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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2017, 10:55:48 AM »
 That's exactly why everybody was wanting me to do that to their Glock's. I carried an RMR'd 17 like that for years. Are you still using the Delta Point Pros?

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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2017, 02:23:29 PM »
Thanks for the really nice complements. I just wanted the OP and others who were considering this mod to know that it is doable.

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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2017, 04:12:02 AM »
Actually looks like it came from the factory that way. Nice job.
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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2017, 04:48:46 AM »
That's exactly why everybody was wanting me to do that to their Glock's. I carried an RMR'd 17 like that for years. Are you still using the Delta Point Pros?

If this was for me, I have RMRs on the P07 and P09.  Yes, still going strong.  I did put a DP Pro on my wife's CZ 75 Compact and it still works, too.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.  So, if you see me walking the dogs with my SIG 556R, its okay.

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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2017, 01:21:33 PM »
That looks perfect!

I'm sure there are quite a few people who would pay to have that done

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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2017, 08:51:07 PM »
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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2017, 10:34:00 PM »
I've been waiting and watching to see when someone would try to chop a P09.  This is EXACTLY what I wanted to do to my P09 before I sold it.  I was afraid to try it myself but I did a lot of looking and measuring.  CGW didn't want to touch it; CZ Custom estimated $150-$200 to do the job, and would have provided a P07 mainspring plug and backstraps for that price.

I wound up selling the P09 'cause I didn't want to spend that much and I didn't think I'd be happy in the long run but those pics make me want to buy another and take my chances with a Dremel.  Man that's cool.

Question for P. Garber Fm: did you save the chopped-off part?  I thought it would make a good spacer for the full-length P09 mags but I don't know if it would survive the operation.

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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2017, 11:05:02 AM »
I've been waiting and watching to see when someone would try to chop a P09.  This is EXACTLY what I wanted to do to my P09 before I sold it.  I was afraid to try it myself but I did a lot of looking and measuring.  CGW didn't want to touch it; CZ Custom estimated $150-$200 to do the job, and would have provided a P07 mainspring plug and backstraps for that price.

I wound up selling the P09 'cause I didn't want to spend that much and I didn't think I'd be happy in the long run but those pics make me want to buy another and take my chances with a Dremel.  Man that's cool.

Question for P. Garber Fm: did you save the chopped-off part?  I thought it would make a good spacer for the full-length P09 mags but I don't know if it would survive the operation.

The cut had to be angled at the rear for the backstrap and main spring parts (unlike the flat bottomed P-09) so that it would match the P-07 grip. In creating that angle, the chopped-off portions were essentially destroyed.

I was really timid about doing this as well, but some of the information from this board gave me the confidence to try. In particular, M1A4ME's comments from earlier in this thread. I compared the main springs (P-07 and P-09) and main spring struts and they appeared to be the same. The main spring plugs were different lengths, but I was able to chop the P-09 to P-07 size (again with the dremel). The only part I had to order was a P-07 small backstrap.

All in all the mod was very easy and might have taken 2 hours on a Saturday, start to finish (including sanding the cuts smooth). This was the first time I ever used a dremel and I am not a hands-on, handyman type of person, so if I can do it, I'm sure anyone could. Honestly, I was shocked by how simple this was.

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Re: CZ P-09 grip chop?
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2017, 11:24:14 PM »
When I shortened the grip frame on my Pre B CZ 85 (to use the 16 round magazines with the +2 bases on them - so I wouldn't have to keep the P01/CZ 75 high cap magazines separate from the CZ 85 extended magazines) I used a small "hobby" belt sander from Harbor Freight.

It might be easier to keep things "straight" on the reduction and keep the angles correct vs. the dremel.  I use a dremel for stuff but with the dremel it's harder to cut/sand things straight vs. that 1" belt with the nice little table in front of it to use when holding the work piece against the belt.

http://www.harborfreight.com/1-in-x-30-in-belt-sander-61728.html

I'll probably use the belt sander when I make the CZ 85 Compact "clone" trigger guard look like a Pre B CZ 85 trigger guard (last thing to do before getting it refinished.)

Oh, picture of the Pre CZ 85 frame showing the cut needed to clear the +2 bases I added to the 16 round magazines.

Well, once again photobucket croaked on me when I went to copy the link to the picture.  I'll check back later and see if those guys can figure out how to keep it up and running longer than 10 or 15 minutes.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.  So, if you see me walking the dogs with my SIG 556R, its okay.

 

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