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Which one do you prefer and why?

Safety
Decocker

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Offline TexanFX2

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Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« on: May 11, 2017, 12:37:22 PM »
Not trying to create a debate here. Just would like to gather opinions, facts, Pros/Cons, and recommendations on Safety vs Decocker for everyday carry.
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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2017, 01:43:08 PM »
Even though I have three 1911's that I have carried and shoot in competition, on a carry gun that is not a 1911, I want to just draw and pull the trigger.

Just my opinion!

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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2017, 01:58:41 PM »
A safety is easy to forget.  With a Decocker, your first pull is hard enough to add a layer of caution, but it still goes bang when you need it. 

Just one guy's opinion and those whose opinion is different and have used a safety or carry cocked and locked are just as valid.

Offline Willie Repeat

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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2017, 02:07:21 PM »
To me the Decocker is just an added convenience. I prefer to carry DA/SA guns and I don't mind manually lowering the hammer to half cock, but given the option I'd take a decocker. I do on occasion carry a RAMI with a saftey(I just don't use the safety) because at the time the RAMI decocker version was hard to find. I have my EDC P-07 in the decocker configuration.

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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2017, 02:38:45 PM »
Even though I have three 1911's that I have carried and shoot in competition, on a carry gun that is not a 1911, I want to just draw and pull the trigger.

Just my opinion!

I only own two CZs -- and I'm new to them both -- but doesn't the safety on the CZ 75 only work when the hammer is in the cocked position? That is, on my 75 D Compact I cannot engage the safety when the hammer is down or half cocked. And you have the trigger block, so you can carry it safely in DA mode just like the decocker model (i.e., draw and pull the trigger). So unless you're going cocked and locked, there's no difference in carrying one with a safety versus one with a decocker unless you've pulled the trigger, right? And then it comes down to knowing how to properly let down a hammer.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2017, 02:41:00 PM by gnumadic »
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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 02:40:53 PM »
Many good arguments for and against both.  I carried a 1911 for over 25 years and my right thumb that has a mind of it own want to ride the safety while shooting.  It will do the same thing with a frame mounted decocker as well which ain’t too cool.  I have been playing with a VP9 and a 75 compact trying to retrain my thumb, but for now a safety works best for me.  In the future I may prefer a decocker, but there is no telling.
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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 02:43:32 PM »
That is correct gnumadic.

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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 02:55:23 PM »
Exactly my question gnumatic! That's what I wanted to find out. Also, for those of us that have the Pro Package with race hammer from CGW, we can actually enable the safety when the hammer is down or half cocked as well. (It works differently from stock).
I have always carried a Glock19 and I would like my CZ75B Compact (Safety) to replace it. Just wanted to validate it is not a "mistake" or overly unsafe carrying a safety, especially in the off position, and most importantly how it is recommended to carry a safety.  ???

I only own two CZs -- and I'm new to them both -- but doesn't the safety on the CZ 75 only work when the hammer is in the cocked position? That is, on my 75 D Compact I cannot engage the safety when the hammer is down or half cocked. And you have the trigger block, so you can carry it safely in DA mode just like the decocker model (i.e., draw and pull the trigger). So unless you're going cocked and locked, there's no difference in carrying one with a safety versus one with a decocker unless you've pulled the trigger, right? And then it comes down to knowing how to properly let down a hammer.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2017, 03:00:07 PM by TexanFX2 »
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Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2017, 04:00:30 PM »
DA/SA is my first choice... although my EDC is a  938 or RO Compact.    My only DA/SA is CZ PCR, it's a bit bulky for me to carry , especially during summer months.

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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2017, 04:06:25 PM »
Even though I have three 1911's that I have carried and shoot in competition, on a carry gun that is not a 1911, I want to just draw and pull the trigger.

Just my opinion!

I only own two CZs -- and I'm new to them both -- but doesn't the safety on the CZ 75 only work when the hammer is in the cocked position? That is, on my 75 D Compact I cannot engage the safety when the hammer is down or half cocked. And you have the trigger block, so you can carry it safely in DA mode just like the decocker model (i.e., draw and pull the trigger). So unless you're going cocked and locked, there's no difference in carrying one with a safety versus one with a decocker unless you've pulled the trigger, right? And then it comes down to knowing how to properly let down a hammer.

A 75D Compact does not have a safety,  it has a decocker.
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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2017, 05:05:52 PM »
A 75D Compact does not have a hammer, it has a decocker.

Correct! I just realized that the listing title on GunBroker was incorrect (did I mention I was new to CZs?).  :-[   It said "CZ USA 75 D COMPACT STEEL FRAME 9MM 99021. * NO CC FEE * W/ RAIL 91199 W/ ILLUM. N.S. SAFETY." It is just a 75 Compact (steel) with rail. No "D" in there.

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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2017, 05:14:20 PM »
That looks like one of the SP-01 compacts.  Most people seem to like those.

I myself, prefer the decockers.  I have a handful of CZ pistols, all decockers.

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Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2017, 05:16:04 PM »
Exactly my question gnumatic! That's what I wanted to find out. Also, for those of us that have the Pro Package with race hammer from CGW, we can actually enable the safety when the hammer is down or half cocked as well. (It works differently from stock).
I have always carried a Glock19 and I would like my CZ75B Compact (Safety) to replace it. Just wanted to validate it is not a "mistake" or overly unsafe carrying a safety, especially in the off position, and most importantly how it is recommended to carry a safety.  ???


    Re-read the warnings on the CGW site. Even tho the safety can be flipped on at the half cock and hammer down position, it should not be used. It can cause issues with the sear and/or safety. In fact, at times you may be able to pull through the safety, breaking it, and pulling the trigger. The safety is only to be used at full cock.
   This isn't an opinion, both CGW and CZC will state this as a matter of fact.
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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2017, 05:41:20 PM »
As striker-fired triggers get lighter and lighter; there's also a trend back to DA carry for that extra safety margin. All my SD handguns are DA/SA or DAO. IMHO CZ makes the very best DA/SA decockers. Easily decocked with thumb without breaking your grip. My micro-9 for Summer carry is DAO; only because CZ does not (yet) make a small single-stack DA/SA decocker.

But for sport shooting, I still love my 1911's too.
I respect that many 1911 owners train to draw cocked and locked but fire with their thumb resting down on the safety. And that works too.
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Re: Safety vs Decocker for carry?
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2017, 06:50:51 PM »
I shoot all kinds of guns, striker fired, DA/SA, DAO, 1911s and revolvers in IDPA & USPSA. Enjoy them all. That said, when I carry semi automatics, I prefer the DA and as such prefer decockers.  I have no issue w/ the DA trigger pull
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