I couldn't open the 2nd one. As far as the first one...ARRGGHHH. The families of these criminals never cease to amaze me. "Just give him the car. You can get another car, but you can't replace his life" or something like that. How ignorant can you be? When there's a gun pointed at you, how do you know they're only going to take the car? I don't care how old this scumbag was. If there's two guys jacking you for your car at gunpoint and you have the chance to defend yourself, I say go for it.