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Offline Stojanovich

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DW Specialist Commander .45
« on: May 25, 2017, 06:00:43 AM »




I have this crazy on-again/off-again dysfunctional relationship with 1911's.  Just when I think I've gotten over it, just when I think I've finally had enough another one I really want always seems to come along.  I was at my LGS yesterday checking-out a completely different gun (Zev Glock 17 Dragonfly) when I saw this Dan Wesson Specialist Commander .45 sitting in the case. 

While the Zev Glock was extremely cool, the DW Specialist Commander was off the scale.  It felt perfect the moment I picked it up.  The balance was amazing and the checkering felt great.  So now the long 7 day wait begins.

Offline Ron M.

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2017, 08:31:45 PM »
Very nice, just wish that DW made that frame with a bobtail.

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2017, 05:49:24 AM »
Thank you!

Funny you should say that because the other model I was considering was a VBOB.  I went with the Specialist over the VBOB simply because of feel.  The Specialist Commander just felt right in my hand.  I also looked at a Guncrafter No Name and an Ed Brown to compare.  I've always wanted a Guncrafter but could never justify the difference in price in spite of a recent drop in MSRP and cost to dealers.  Both guns were still about $500-600 more than the DW.  I chose the Specialist based on past experience shooting a friend's DW Silverback.  Usually, I don't care much for two-tone pistols but its one of the most accurate .45's I've ever shot and I've shot a lot of different 1911's in the past 40 years.  I was not aware that the Specialist was available in a Commander-size frame and that's all it took for me!

   
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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2017, 11:26:32 AM »
Congrats. No issues with galling I assume?  I've been lusting after a DW spealist for some time.  Might be time to consider selling some of my safe queens.......
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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2017, 11:49:04 PM »
I have the full size Specialist in .45 and I have been lusting for the Commander size Specialist in 9mm for a long time now.  I should have not clicked on this thread. hmmmm....what can I sell now???

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2017, 06:17:53 AM »
No issues with galling I assume?

Don't know.  I won't be able to bring it home until Wednesday.  I assume that galling can be mitigated somewhat by keeping it lubed generously, like any 1911?  I tend to run my 1911's fairly 'wet' anyway. 

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2017, 10:47:24 AM »
No issues with galling I assume?

Don't know.  I won't be able to bring it home until Wednesday.  I assume that galling can be mitigated somewhat by keeping it lubed generously, like any 1911?  I tend to run my 1911's fairly 'wet' anyway.


I use Shooter's Choice slide grease on my 2 DW V-Bobs and Guardian, haven't seen a problem.

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2017, 07:31:25 PM »
I got to shoot a .45 Specialist today....Pretty Darn Sweet ! A buddy of mine purchased it about a month ago and hadn't had the chance to shoot it until today. I don't think I have ever owned a firearm for more than a day or two without shooting it. Again I have to say it is vey nice.

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2017, 07:41:45 PM »
No issues with galling I assume?

Don't know.  I won't be able to bring it home until Wednesday.  I assume that galling can be mitigated somewhat by keeping it lubed generously, like any 1911?  I tend to run my 1911's fairly 'wet' anyway.

Good luck, let us know. I have 2 1911s currently- a SIG nightmare and a S& W e series. Like both, but have a slight preference for the S&W, works for me just a little better.

Am tempted to get a DW specialist one day. Let me know how it goes.
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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2017, 06:21:54 AM »
Honestly, it had been so long since I had heard the term, 'galling' I had to look it up.  I remember it being an issue on some of the stainless 1911's built in the early-to-mid 1980's.  The AMT 'Hardballer' 1911 immediately comes to mind but, I have two stainless 1911's that have never given me the least bit of trouble in that regard - a Springfield and a Sig - because I know how to lube them properly.  I think 75% or more of the issues reported with 1911's is due to improper lubrication.

What struck me about the DW was how buttery smooth and tight it was.  The slide-to-frame fit is one of the best I've ever seen, although, I only had a Guncrafter and Ed Brown 1911 in the gun shop to compare it to.  When it comes to range toys, I prefer stainless.  Blued guns are beautiful but, if I'm going to use one for semi-casual competition and shoot it a lot, stainless steel pistols clean-up much easier (to me).   

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2017, 06:36:29 AM »
I just realized that it had been a little over a month since I started this thread and never reported back about how it shoots.

First, I'm thrilled to report that the pistol has run flawlessly - no malfunctions of any kind whatsoever after 525 rounds.  The fact that it was thouroughly cleaned and generously lubricated with FP-10 before it was shot may have had something to do with that.  I tend to err on the wet-side when it comes to 1911's.

Ammo used:

Geco 230gr FMJ
Fiocchi 230gr FMJ
Sellier & Bellot 230gr FMJ

Distance: 10 yards.  Why 10 yards and not 7?  I don't know.  My 57 year-old eyes seem to focus better at 10 than 7.   

Position: Standing, offhand

First shots were using Fiocchi:



This was my first time shooting a pistol equipped with Heinie Straight 8 sights and I like them.  I usually don't shoot all that great on dimly lit indoor ranges but they made it easier than it usually is for me.  I was shooting about an inch high at first.

Next was a half-box of some leftover Geco 230gr FMJ that I had from a previous range session.  I love this ammo.  It shoots great in every 1911 and Sig I've ever used it in.  My Walther PPQ 45 also likes it a lot:



I have eight more boxes of this stuff I haven't unpacked yet.  Another thing about Geco is that it's some of the cleanest shooting ammo I've ever used.  I'm not a huge fan of their 9mm ammo but the .45 ACP has gotta be some of the better factory ammo available.

Last but not least, Sellier & Bellot 230gr FMJ.  This was my first experience with S&B .45 ammo and I was not disappointed:





While it's a bit more 'smoky' than either the Geco or the Fiocchi, it seemed like the recoil was noticeably milder.  I would definitely buy it again.

And, trust me, I know these targets ain't nothin' to write home about but, the first range trip was more of a reliability and operational test than a serious attempt to shoot with precision and in spite of that, the pistol exceeded every one of my expectations in terms of accuracy and dependability. 

I understand how some shooters think the checkering on the backstrap and front strap of the grip is overly aggressive.  Yeah, I also found it somewhat pronounced, at first.  Once I lightened-up on my death-grip, though, it was fine.  I run VZ Diamondbacks on my CZ 75 Compact PCR and I've heard similar complaints about them, too.  I don't know.  It's mostly a matter of personal preference.  I like something that isn't going to move around in my shooting hand a lot.

Bottom line: would recommend this pistol without hesitation.

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2017, 06:39:13 AM »


The worst part about owning a gun like this...is having to wait two weeks between trips to the range.  I finally had a chance to go back today and put a couple hundred rounds thru it and went early to beat the Saturday crowd. 

I've pretty much settled on Geco 230gr FMJ as my base line test ammo.  Its consistency and price being the two determining factors in the decision.

Warmed-up on the small bullseye target at 10 yards:



Pushed the target out to 15 yards and figured it would open my group up a bit more.  It did but, it was mostly my fault.  Everything I shot at that distance seemed to want to go left.



Overall, though, I'm very pleased with these results and very impressed with this gun.  I've only owned a couple of 1911's that didn't malfunction, at least, once or twice during the first 1000 rounds but this one shows no indication of ever doing so.

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2017, 06:51:34 AM »
My local range was open 4th of July and I figured that a great way to celebrate would be by exercising my Second Amendment rights!

Grabbed a couple of boxes of S&B 230gr FMJ and warmed-up at 10 yards on the bullseye target:



Replaced the bullseye with a silhouette and moved it out to 15 yards:



Again, the DW Specialist Commander continues to shoot like a fine-tuned machine even if I don't!  I consider it one of the best gun-buying decisions I've made during the past couple of years.

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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2017, 11:07:36 PM »
Congrats and am happy to hear you are completely satisfied.  This is encouraging me to consider getting one.

Is there anything you would change, adjust?
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Re: DW Specialist Commander .45
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2017, 07:18:43 AM »
Congrats and am happy to hear you are completely satisfied.  This is encouraging me to consider getting one.

Is there anything you would change, adjust?

Not very much to be honest.  I may eventually change the grips and switch-out for a skeletonized trigger but that would be about all.

 

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