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Offline RamHead

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Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« on: June 14, 2017, 06:24:02 PM »
In addition to being a new member I am also the owner of a Shadow 2 as my first CZ. Could someone with experience specific to the Shadow 2 and shooting in USPSA Production share with me a step by step procedure going from the command "Load and make ready". Specifically, I am wondering when and if you "manually" de-cock the hammer as my understanding is that the hammer MUST be down prior to RSO giving the " standby" command.

Offline SlvrDragon50

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2017, 11:34:26 PM »
You manually decock after load and make ready.

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2017, 09:21:34 AM »
Welcome aboard!
, I am wondering when and if you "manually" de-cock the hammer as my understanding is that the hammer MUST be down prior to RSO giving the " standby" command.
Unless (I think) in "open" class.  My experience is with a SP-01 but the procedure is the same.  After being told to load and make ready you pull the gun from your holster, insert a magizine and rack the slide to load a round in the chamber.  While still POINTING THE MUZZLE DOWN RANGE lower the hammer all the way down (NOT the half cocked position).  Re-holster or place gun on table, barrel or what ever the course of fire requires.
If all that goes well next you will be asked "are you ready" USUALLY no response is required and you wait for the beep.
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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 03:23:19 PM »
As above except I will note most Production shooters will use a "stripper" or "barney" mag and then remove it and replace it with a full mag so you are starting 10 +1.  Here is the technique I use to de-cock.


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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2017, 04:48:40 PM »
... most Production shooters will use a "stripper" or "barney" mag and then remove it and replace it with a full mag so you are starting 10 +1. 

Why not just have one mag loaded with 11 so that after LMAR you are 10+1 without the extra mag change?

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2017, 04:52:22 PM »
going from the command "Load and make ready". Specifically, I am wondering when and if you "manually" de-cock the hammer as my understanding is that the hammer MUST be down prior to RSO giving the " standby" command.

Dropping the hammer would be part of the "make ready" command, which is simply doing whatever you have to do after loading to make everything ready, which would include manually lowering the hammer and holstering the pistol and whatever else you want to do.

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2017, 06:15:50 PM »
... most Production shooters will use a "stripper" or "barney" mag and then remove it and replace it with a full mag so you are starting 10 +1. 

Why not just have one mag loaded with 11 so that after LMAR you are 10+1 without the extra mag change?

Because in Canada having a mag that holds eleven would land me in jail for having a prohibited device.

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2017, 07:41:32 PM »
... most Production shooters will use a "stripper" or "barney" mag and then remove it and replace it with a full mag so you are starting 10 +1. 

Why not just have one mag loaded with 11 so that after LMAR you are 10+1 without the extra mag change?

Because in Canada having a mag that holds eleven would land me in jail for having a prohibited device.

That's a very good reason.  ;)

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2017, 11:50:17 PM »
... most Production shooters will use a "stripper" or "barney" mag and then remove it and replace it with a full mag so you are starting 10 +1. 

Why not just have one mag loaded with 11 so that after LMAR you are 10+1 without the extra mag change?

Cuz a dummy like me may mix up the 10+1 mag with a 10 mag.  Baaad.  First you run dry unexpectedly,  then you have too many rounds with the next mag.  Yes I did this many years back. :-[

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2017, 09:49:03 PM »
Why not mark one specific magazine in a unique way such as a different color base plate or a base plate with a unique decal/etc. to differentiate it from all of your other magazines for that firearm?  This would then be your "Load and make ready" magazine.  Maybe even mark it "LMR" on the base plate with a sharpie that will stand out.
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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2017, 07:27:19 AM »
When I shoot production the mags on my belt are all loaded to 10 rounds.  I have one in my back pocket that I use during the LAMR command.  This has served me well for many years of shooting production in USPSA, hasn't helped me get to GM or M level though :)

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2017, 09:04:33 PM »
I load all mine to 10 rounds, but I have 3 that are 10 only, I may buy one more to fill up the belt.

I also have one in my hand that is 11 rounds....or on the barrel, chair, other obstacle they throw out.

In a nut shell, I only have 51 rounds on me......I suck so bad, sometimes that is not enough  ;D

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2017, 09:53:36 PM »
If the 11 rd mag isn't started cocked, you are entering limited. Any unloaded starts have to start with 10 in the mag. That is why people suggest doing one mag to load a barney round and replacing the mag with a 10 rd mag.

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Re: Shadow2 owners shooting USPSA production class
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2017, 07:54:07 PM »
In a nut shell, I only have 51 rounds on me......I suck so bad, sometimes that is not enough  ;D
You could always consider shooting in limited.  Seriously, some folks I shoot with prefer the limited game, as round counts become 'a bit' less of a concern, allowing you to focus on shooting, transitions, etc.

 

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