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Offline eastman

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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #270 on: October 07, 2017, 04:50:16 PM »
Since my barrel finally came in, I had to decide on an upper receiver. Ordered this one today, no weight listed, hope it doesn't weigh a ton.
https://rouschsports.com/shop/ar15-upper-parts/side-charging-non-reciprocating-upper-receiver-newest-and-best-available/

I'm very much interested in how this works for you.

I like the idea of a side-charging AR (charging handle in the same spot as an FN-FAL or a Scorpion), but I know there have been problematic brands (I don't remember who DSArms bought them from, but they weren't reliable and all were replaced with conventional uppers).
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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #271 on: October 07, 2017, 05:06:45 PM »
This all has me thinking about my first build... that I started pre-election with a stripped lower and then tabled.

I’m glad I waited actually because now I want a pistol build instead of a rifle build... something with a shockwave brace and law tactical folder.

Of course, since all I have in hand is the lower I’m also contemplating just buying a completed pistol LOL
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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #272 on: October 07, 2017, 06:51:37 PM »
Since my barrel finally came in, I had to decide on an upper receiver. Ordered this one today, no weight listed, hope it doesn't weigh a ton.
https://rouschsports.com/shop/ar15-upper-parts/side-charging-non-reciprocating-upper-receiver-newest-and-best-available/

I'm very much interested in how this works for you.

I like the idea of a side-charging AR (charging handle in the same spot as an FN-FAL or a Scorpion), but I know there have been problematic brands (I don't remember who DSArms bought them from, but they weren't reliable and all were replaced with conventional uppers).
The upper arrived today, very impressed with the shipping/processing time from Rousch. It's a little heavy at 14oz, but assembled on my rifle it doesn't feel bad. I have a slick side upper that's 6oz for comparison. Some observations- B.A.D. lever won't clear the bolt release recess, anti rotation tabs don't need to be removed but do need trimming. Fit to my Aero lowers is very nice, no wiggle at all.
 Things that make this upper different from the other non-recips are the fwd assist, ejection port cvr, doesn't require special cam pin, the charging handle doesn't protrude from the rear of the upper, machined for anti rotation tabs. Cycling by hand is nice and smooth and the handle has a detent that locks it in the closed position. I'll check back in after I take it to the range.

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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #273 on: October 12, 2017, 06:20:57 PM »
The Spitfire Prism is super crisp with hypothetically good eye relief (held it up, not mounted)! I'm pretty sure you'll like it. Check it out for sure.  The Romeo and Fastfire are both reflex sights I thought? Also, did you mess around with changing the brightness as well?

I think the battery was low on the Romeo, which may have added to the problem. Didn't mess around with the Fastfire much. Just a couple clicks on the illumination.

I ended up ordering a Spitfire AR from Optics Planet today. I have seen them on EBay for as low as 209.95 new. OP had it for 249.00 (still about 30% off). I chatted with them online and got them to match EBay. I also ordered an American Defense QD mount (65.00), but it's backordered. Might see if I can find it elsewhere. I think I'll like the optic and am glad to stay relatively w/in budget.
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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #274 on: October 13, 2017, 09:20:39 PM »
Like others have said, a good trigger and barrel are essential if you're serious about competition shooting. 16" barrel is plenty for 3 gun.The ALG trigger is best solution unless you're a benchrest shooter. Couple it with a Blackhole Weaponry barrel and you are on your way.You can buy a BHW barrel from SAA and they will give you a stripped upper.I've built so many for myself and others, I've lost count, but the upper you build will outshoot the upper you buy if you do it right. My favorite build has made believers out of guys at a range near me when they challenged me at 25 yards for accuracy. I told them I wasn't a shooter, but my rifle was and after they each (3 of them) put 5 rounds each into a target, I dumped 2- 20 rd mags into one 2 inch hole using a red dot-silence ensued.The BHW barrel is key.Installing it with a reaction rod also makes a world of difference as you don't torque load the upper (kinda' like warping it) so your rifle repeats placement, less fliers. Aero Precision makes good parts as does PSA and others. Used lots of both, and current rifle is a PSA limited run actually done by FN before they went commercial. Only made about 500 of them. Other favorite was an Umbrella Corp SPR build and of course I named her "Alice".Good luck on your build, need any help or info, yell out.


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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #275 on: October 13, 2017, 09:40:21 PM »
LOL
2 inches at 25 yards. WOW
 I would get rid of ANY AR that couldn't do that.
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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #276 on: October 13, 2017, 10:43:02 PM »
For those of you looking to build or change an upper, consider one of these handguards from STNGR. I just got one, great price, great quality, great strength/weight/value!

https://www.stngrusa.com/

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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #277 on: January 06, 2018, 09:24:57 PM »
@SlvrDragon50 How is your build coming? I went with a Vortex Spitfire AR. While I can't cowitness my irons, the prism scope construction works with my eyesight. And I put it on an American Defense quick release base. I've also added a Streamlight Pro Tac light and an Asaka finger stop. If I could change anything it would be the trigger (that and I'll do enhanced pivot/take-down pins on my next build). The ALG QMS trigger is really great for a mil spec design. No complaints other than I'd like the pull to be just a little lighter. I'm going to experiment with some JP Enterprises springs ($10). If I'd bought the ALG ACT trigger instead it would have come with a reduced power spring.




@Earl Keese Are you still working on your 6.5 Grendel build? How is the Faxon group buy barrel? I picked up another lower on Black Friday and am planning a 6.5 Grendel rig for hunting. The 18" gunner barrel seems perfect. I wonder if there are any left.
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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #278 on: January 07, 2018, 08:27:55 AM »
I did get it finished. The used Leupold scope i bought wasn't holding zero, haven't gotten it back from Leupold yet. With a SWFA 16x on it currently, it will shoot sub moa @100 with Hornady ELD-M and SST. With Hornady American Gunner 123gr it shoots right at MOA. Regarding the barrel, I'm pleased for what I spent on it. I really like the melonite finish as opposed to bare stainless. Whether the 5R-EE rifling will be a benefit, I dunno. For my purpose, I'd buy it again. I think it'll shoot tighter groups, I've only had it out once with the SWFA scope and forgot most of my ammo at home. This week the weather should be better so I'll know more.

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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #279 on: January 07, 2018, 12:26:45 PM »
Forgot about this thread. I finished it a while ago, and I didn't lube it enough when I first got it so I had some troubles, but it shoots great now! Not fun to shoot indoors though  ::)

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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #280 on: January 07, 2018, 12:54:45 PM »
I did get it finished. The used Leupold scope i bought wasn't holding zero, haven't gotten it back from Leupold yet. With a SWFA 16x on it currently, it will shoot sub moa @100 with Hornady ELD-M and SST. With Hornady American Gunner 123gr it shoots right at MOA. Regarding the barrel, I'm pleased for what I spent on it. I really like the melonite finish as opposed to bare stainless. Whether the 5R-EE rifling will be a benefit, I dunno. For my purpose, I'd buy it again. I think it'll shoot tighter groups, I've only had it out once with the SWFA scope and forgot most of my ammo at home. This week the weather should be better so I'll know more.

Thanks. I'm going to try to get in on that group buy. It's still the best price I've found on a match grade Grendel barrel. Plus, being a hunting rig I don't need a heavy barrel. And like you, I am looking forward to this week's heat wave! It's the last week of the season in Georgia and the deer haven't been moving as much with the cold.

@SlvrDragon50 Nice! How do you like the SI angled foregrip? I had been considering that one.

There's an outdoor range I go to that has a covered roof. Depending on the brake it can be pretty rough there, too!
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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #281 on: January 07, 2018, 03:09:00 PM »
If the 18" GB would have been further along, I would've gone that route. They're shipping, so your timing is good. I had to wait for mine.
 Also, I don't believe the group buy barrels are the same as the "Gunner" profile. Faxon manufactures them to BFT's specs. That said, BFT is a 6.5Gr guy and knows what he's doing.

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Re: Just bought my first AR... lower.
« Reply #282 on: January 07, 2018, 09:16:31 PM »
I did get it finished. The used Leupold scope i bought wasn't holding zero, haven't gotten it back from Leupold yet. With a SWFA 16x on it currently, it will shoot sub moa @100 with Hornady ELD-M and SST. With Hornady American Gunner 123gr it shoots right at MOA. Regarding the barrel, I'm pleased for what I spent on it. I really like the melonite finish as opposed to bare stainless. Whether the 5R-EE rifling will be a benefit, I dunno. For my purpose, I'd buy it again. I think it'll shoot tighter groups, I've only had it out once with the SWFA scope and forgot most of my ammo at home. This week the weather should be better so I'll know more.

Thanks. I'm going to try to get in on that group buy. It's still the best price I've found on a match grade Grendel barrel. Plus, being a hunting rig I don't need a heavy barrel. And like you, I am looking forward to this week's heat wave! It's the last week of the season in Georgia and the deer haven't been moving as much with the cold.

@SlvrDragon50 Nice! How do you like the SI angled foregrip? I had been considering that one.

There's an outdoor range I go to that has a covered roof. Depending on the brake it can be pretty rough there, too!

The SI angled foregrip is real comfortable. Just so many different possible ways of gripping that there's bound to be one style you like. It comes in at a good price point too.