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Offline 9mmjld

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Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« on: August 12, 2017, 08:31:57 PM »
Hi all. New to the forum but been lurking here for awhile. Lots of great info here. Thinking about buying a carbine but undecided if I should get one with faux suppressor or the muzzle brake. At this time planning on leaving it stock as it comes except for the safety and trigger work. Any suggestions would be appreciated,. Thanks.

Offline akuser47

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2017, 08:33:59 PM »
Welcome, I cannot advise on the carbines. I will say this I think you will enjoy whichever one you get.

Offline greyling22

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2017, 08:37:10 PM »
Neither one is functional, so get whatever is cheaper or tickles your fancy more. I think the can looks better, but it seemed really mall ninja to me to have a fake can on the gun so I bought the brake. Spent the savings fixing the grip and trigger.

Offline Clearwave

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2017, 08:55:48 PM »
The Comp is functional.


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Offline SouthernScorp

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2017, 10:20:19 PM »
the break, the faux is a pita to remove if you ever want to move on from it
CZ Scorpion Evo S1 Pistol:

SLR Synergy Mini comp
SBT-EVO Brace
PMM Safety Levers
Dual HBI Prostock Charging Handles
Gearhead Mag Release
HBI Trigger Spring
HBI Delta Trigger
PMM QD Front & Rear
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Offline jim.c

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2017, 10:59:56 PM »
I agree with greyling22. The faux suppressor really doesn't serve any purpose. Don't get me wrong I think it looks cool but I went with the muzzle break carbine. You can always add a real suppressor at a later date. Use the money saved to upgrade the trigger and get some extra mags. I got mine at deguns.net for $799.99. It seemed like a pretty good deal to me. Take a look.

Offline greyling22

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2017, 02:10:31 AM »
I still don't think there is enough gas at the end of a 16" barrel to work a brake, despite clearwave's claims.

9mm out of a 16" barrel is around 7,500psi, whereas a 223 out of a 16" is close to 50,000psi. (at least according to this pressure calculating spreadsheet I found online here http://closefocusresearch.com/calculating-barrel-pressure-and-projectile-velocity-gun-systems

brakes work well on rifles, not so good on 9mm and 22lr.

Offline SouthernScorp

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2017, 02:21:11 AM »
dunno my slr synergy minicomp works pretty well on my pistol vs the factory bird cage it had before. I shoot hard and fast and the muzzle stays more flat and controlled than before. But true there isn't that much pressure coming out of a 9mm "or flash" but if you're trying to decide on paying for something real attached to your muzzle vs something fake the choice is obvious.
CZ Scorpion Evo S1 Pistol:

SLR Synergy Mini comp
SBT-EVO Brace
PMM Safety Levers
Dual HBI Prostock Charging Handles
Gearhead Mag Release
HBI Trigger Spring
HBI Delta Trigger
PMM QD Front & Rear
Magpul MS1 + QDs
Holosun HS515cu on ADM low mount
Vendetta VP-17-A AFG

Offline John A.

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2017, 08:55:35 AM »
I don't want fake things on my guns.

my vote for break.
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Offline majulook

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 11:20:44 AM »
Since both carbines will perform very well, get which ever is the least expensive.  Then you can change, what ever you do not like.

Offline czfan12

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2017, 01:09:40 PM »
Since both carbines will perform very well, get which ever is the least expensive.  Then you can change, what ever you do not like.

That's the approach I took.  The best deal available was on one with a faux suppressor, so that's what I got. 

Offline Asmodeus

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2017, 12:45:31 PM »
Hi all. New to the forum but been lurking here for awhile. Lots of great info here. Thinking about buying a carbine but undecided if I should get one with faux suppressor or the muzzle brake. At this time planning on leaving it stock as it comes except for the safety and trigger work. Any suggestions would be appreciated,. Thanks.

Since you left it open for suggestion... 

Don't get a carbine.  Get a pistol and a brace.  It's easier to work on, (like getting to the handguard nut on the carbine is a pain, it's the same weight as an average AR-15 but only fires 9mm, it's not what the gun was ever designed to actually be... etc)

If you ignore that, and do a carbine anyway.  Function over form, I would get a brake because it actually does something, and weighs less. 

You will not leave the gun stock for long.  It has a short list of warts that need removed. 

In the end the Scorpion is a phenomenally handy little accurate, reliable, 9mm.  The ergo's need work.  And tailoring it to fit you will be quite worth it in the end.  The safeties are awful, and so is the trigger.  Both can be fixed easily.  I personally think the factory mag release is also on that list.  (And the grip) 

For the money, it's a good gun to build from. 

Offline Garand1957

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Re: Faux Suppressor or Muzzle Brake
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2017, 04:16:04 PM »
Bought my carbine used but unfired in the box.
Got it for a good price but it had the faux suppressor....It had to go.
I ended up putting the Kaw Valley Precision Linear Comp 9MM 1/2x28
 https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Kaw_Valley_Precision_Linear_Comp_9MM_1_2x28_Black_p/kvp-linear-9mm-12x28-blk.htm