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Offline sneefy

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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2017, 05:00:50 PM »
Hearing damage is not to be taken lightly. It is cumulative and damage can happen suddenly without any signs leading up to it. A single audio trauma event can change your life.

It's not just loss of hearing or tinnitus. I have hyperacusis caused by an airbag going off when I hit a 10 point buck 2 years ago. That decibel level is comparable to a somewhat larger caliber going off close to you. Now, in my left ear, things are actually louder than they should be. Especially higher frequencies. Faucets running, potato chip bags crinkling, when people whistle their 's' in their speech pattern, my own voice when I sing or speak above a medium volume.

Those sounds (and many others) are painful and drill into the brain much more than they should. I haven't been shooting since the accident happened. I'm frankly afraid to do so because I don't want to cause any more damage. I don't know if I will go back unless I go suppressed.

It's especially life-changing for me because I took great care of my hearing. I rarely went to concerts, brought earplugs when I did. I used to sing in a professional choir and act on stage. I have not listened to much music at all in the past two years and only at very low volume. My hearing was precious to me and a large part of my joys in life were dependent on it. The impact on my quality has been significant. I would rather be deaf in my left ear instead it's the opposite.

After two years with only minor improvement, I have no reason to believe this will NOT be permanent. Meaning I will never sing in in a choir again, never go to a concert, never go to a movie in the theatre, never go to a noisy bar, and avoid any situation that might be loud and I carry earplugs with me at ALL times. It isn't just frustrating. It's often miserable.

Once the damage is done, and it is cumulative, there is no turning back. No surgery or drugs can reverse it. So my ENT and audiologist both say. It also doesn't matter what your friend can tolerate. Everybody's ears are different. BE CAREFUL.

PLEASE protect your ears.

Offline John A.

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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2017, 05:24:25 PM »
And this is another reason why I support the HPA, HUSH, or SHARE.

The antigun senators are trying to say that hunters can wear ear pro, or even hearing aid type things with sound amplication (which if you've ever used know sucks).

But the thing is, again, the 2A isn't about hunting.

I want the ability to be able to protect my ears anytime.  Anywhere.

Whether hunting, recreational shooting, or God forbid if I have to use my weapon within my home to protect my family or myself without risking my life and all of our hearing to do so.

This is a huge reason why I am an advocate for silencers.

When people ignorant of guns make gun laws, you end up with ignorant gun laws.

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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2017, 06:10:57 PM »
Besides all of the above good advice, I’ll put in another plug for eye protection as well.

Unlike hearing loss which is caused by sounds which are giving off the warning of being loud but that are not sudden or painful, and is usually not totally debilitating, vision loss can occur suddenly and unexpectedly ... and painfully.  And is usually debilitating.

Following a trip to the ER for an eye trauma incident (that was not shooting related, and fortunately was not permanent although painful and scary), I now wear eye protection for almost everything I do outside of the house or with tools and equipment.
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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2017, 09:12:27 PM »
I wear ear plugs and ear muffs when shooting. I go to a lot of concerts and always wear ear plugs, except ac/dc gigs, they are allowed to do the damage.

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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2017, 09:28:36 PM »
Strangest thing is, it didn't hurt, my ears didn't ring then or later.

I'm guessing you were completely open air.

Also, I understand anecdotally that having your mouth open helps reduce the effects of the report.

Under a roof, but open front/back/sides.

Learned that a long time ago with the 4" M29 S&W and the 2&3/4" Ruger .357.  With both of those you can see the orange fireball even in daylight.
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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2017, 10:27:16 PM »
My wife and staff get mad sometimes when I say, "Huh, what's that" and the like. The Navy sat me next to a 3"50 caliber, (roughly 76mm), cannon with sound powered phones for hearing protection. Needless to say, that was inadequate. I wear amplified electronic muffs nowadays, because the best shouted instruction won't be heard without electronic help...

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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2017, 08:50:43 PM »
Tinnitus 24/7/365

Usually notice it more at night while watching tv, but it is always there. You kind of get used to it.

Guns, power tools, rock & roll for way too many years without protection (usually had some type while shooting, but not always). I wised up too late.  :-\

Haven't had my hearing checked in many years, but my wife says I say "huh?" too much.  :)

Same here. Constant ringing, noticed more when there's no other noise. Hearing loss in the 4K hz range, specialist in Memphis said that frequency would indicate damage from gunfire. I've had it since my 20's for sure, maybe sooner.
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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2017, 03:02:53 PM »
Anyone have any experience with hearing loss from shooting guns without hearing protection?

If so - I'm wondering if you can help me out.

How much is too much?

Anyone have experience with hearing loss wnd ear ringing while shooting for 30 mins but it came back later?

I'm specifically wondering about high frequency / high end hearing loss and ringing.

Once damaged, your hearing will NOT recover, therefore in my opinion any hearing loss is too much. Ringing in the ears is different, however it can be indicative of sustaining hearing damage. As one ages the ability to pick out tones in the higher frequencies *does* diminish, but if you're experience what you've described I recommend you see a qualified ENT doctor (ear nose and throat) and from now on wear foam plugs AND very good ear muffs to minimize any more damage.

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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2017, 07:38:36 PM »
Any amount is too much. Always wear eye and ear protection, take it from a old ARMY grunt.
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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2017, 08:23:22 PM »
WHAT?????

I can't hear you!!!

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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2017, 07:53:20 PM »
I shot without hearing protection when I was in my teens and twenties, then got the message and wore plugs and muffs.  Significant hearing loss didn't start showing up until I was in my early 60s.  The damage is permanent and irreversible.

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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2017, 11:13:19 AM »
I'm pretty religious about doubling up ear pro (muffs and plugs) i've also instilled this in my kids. Even if I can't get back any hearing i've already lost my kids might be able to do better

Online Joe L

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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2017, 06:37:54 AM »
Years of drag racing without hearing protection also hurts.  I didn't start pistol shooting until about 6 years or so ago, have used ear plugs plus muffs nearly the entire time, but shoot several hundred rounds per week under a large three sided shed in .22/.45/9mm and have STILL added some damage to my hearing.  Plus I'll be 70 next year and some of what I've seen my be deterioration not gun related. 

But I found that I wasn't even getting my Howard Leight expanding plugs inserted correctly and had to become more careful with them--when they are right, they block nearly everthing.  If you can see them from the front, they aren't inserted far enough. 

My worst fear now is loosing my hearing aids while on a trip or at a conference.

I should have been a look more careful for the last 57 years, less open headers, more silencers, more care with the hearing protection. 

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Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2017, 12:38:12 PM »
Riding a motorcycle without a helmet or even with most helmets can cause damage. I wear earplugs under my full face every time I ride and it makes a difference after the ride.
I don’t hunt nearly as much as I used to but when I do I wear electronic muffs after I caused serious damage from shooting a deer with a ported revolver a few years ago.
Ear plugs in the shop if I have to use a hammer on steel. I make my students do the same, even though they grumble about it they’ll hopefully thank me for it some day.
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Re: Hearing Loss - Gun Fire
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2017, 07:20:59 AM »
Are orange foam earplugs and 21db earmuffs enough for the indoor range, to protect me from hearing damage?
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