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Offline DOC 1500

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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2017, 12:40:55 AM »
I've had my P09 now since June of 2017 and carry it daily. When I get to work I take out the magazine and take out the cartridge in the chamber and lock it in the safe in the car. So in all actuality ever since I've had it at least once a day I slam the mag and a round goes in the chamber, you do the math at least 6 days a week since June 13th.
And that's not counting every time at the range I Slam in a magazine.

I'm not giving you a hard time but please do some reading up on ammunition and reloading especially regarding bullet set back. Rounds that are chambered and unchambered numerous times can suffer from bullet set back which simply means the bullet is forced deeper into the shell casing and this can result in excessively high pressures upon firing also possibly resulting in a damaged gun and or a damaged shooter.
What you are doing can be a very unsafe practice and in a defensive situation the last thing you want is for your gun to fail for any reason.
Thank you I do appreciate the information the last two magazines I was using for self defense had the same rounds in it for 5 months periodically I would switch them around. Recently I shot them all and replace them with fresh.
Thanks again for the caring info
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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2017, 11:52:08 AM »
Extra couple of seconds not having to slingshot the slide on your next magazine is priceless.

Until you pull the trigger and get a click instead of a bang because you're chamber is empty.  Seen it happen more times than I can remember in matches and force on force scenarios. Auto forwarding slides are a negative in my book.

I could'nt agree more, auto-forwarding works right up until you need it to, and then it dosen't.. Betting your ass on a range trick is pretty foolish.

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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2017, 03:37:51 PM »
Extra couple of seconds not having to slingshot the slide on your next magazine is priceless.

Until you pull the trigger and get a click instead of a bang because you're chamber is empty.  Seen it happen more times than I can remember in matches and force on force scenarios. Auto forwarding slides are a negative in my book.

I could'nt agree more, auto-forwarding works right up until you need it to, and then it dosen't.. Betting your ass on a range trick is pretty foolish.
I don't count on it happening it just does.
 I can always sling shot if it doesn't.
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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2017, 08:09:40 PM »
My 75 does that most of the time too. Burned me badly at an IDPA match Tuesday. I would just as soon it didn't do that.

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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2017, 08:34:30 PM »
My 75 does that most of the time too. Burned me badly at an IDPA match Tuesday. I would just as soon it didn't do that.
So did it auto forward without putting a cartridge in the chamber or just didn't auto forward?
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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2017, 09:36:21 PM »
My 75 does that most of the time too. Burned me badly at an IDPA match Tuesday. I would just as soon it didn't do that.
You can make your 75 do it all of the time.  All you have to do is polish the slide stop and slide were they rub.
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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2017, 01:08:17 AM »
Thanks to all for so much great fdback. I’d never heard of this happening. I’ve got a new perspective on autoloaders now.

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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2017, 08:46:50 AM »
Thanks to all for so much great fdback. I’d never heard of this happening. I’ve got a new perspective on autoloaders now.
Even though your pistol May auto forward the slide and put a cartridge in the chamber,
 Don't rely on it, be ready to sling shot the slide every time.
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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2017, 10:45:59 PM »
My 75 does that most of the time too. Burned me badly at an IDPA match Tuesday. I would just as soon it didn't do that.
So did it auto forward without putting a cartridge in the chamber or just didn't auto forward?

Yep. Somehow didn't strip a round off the mag, and left me high and dry. Fortunately my IAD game was halfway on point, so it didn't slow me down too much.

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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2017, 08:24:44 PM »
I've had my P09 now since June of 2017 and carry it daily. When I get to work I take out the magazine and take out the cartridge in the chamber and lock it in the safe in the car. So in all actuality ever since I've had it at least once a day I slam the mag and a round goes in the chamber, you do the math at least 6 days a week since June 13th.
And that's not counting every time at the range I Slam in a magazine.

I'm not giving you a hard time but please do some reading up on ammunition and reloading especially regarding bullet set back. Rounds that are chambered and unchambered numerous times can suffer from bullet set back which simply means the bullet is forced deeper into the shell casing and this can result in excessively high pressures upon firing also possibly resulting in a damaged gun and or a damaged shooter.
What you are doing can be a very unsafe practice and in a defensive situation the last thing you want is for your gun to fail for any reason.

I've seen this happen a lot with .45s.  You'd be surprised at how a few thousandths setback can spike the initial pressures of a round.  It's definitely something worth keeping an eye on.

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Re: P-10C going into battery when mag sent home
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2017, 04:57:15 PM »
I've had my P09 now since June of 2017 and carry it daily. When I get to work I take out the magazine and take out the cartridge in the chamber and lock it in the safe in the car. So in all actuality ever since I've had it at least once a day I slam the mag and a round goes in the chamber, you do the math at least 6 days a week since June 13th.
And that's not counting every time at the range I Slam in a magazine.

I'm not giving you a hard time but please do some reading up on ammunition and reloading especially regarding bullet set back. Rounds that are chambered and unchambered numerous times can suffer from bullet set back which simply means the bullet is forced deeper into the shell casing and this can result in excessively high pressures upon firing also possibly resulting in a damaged gun and or a damaged shooter.
What you are doing can be a very unsafe practice and in a defensive situation the last thing you want is for your gun to fail for any reason.
Thank you I do appreciate the information the last two magazines I was using for self defense had the same rounds in it for 5 months periodically I would switch them around. Recently I shot them all and replace them with fresh.
Thanks again for the caring info

A different note on the same subject. A Polish P-64 with an aggressive extractor can burr the case rim until the slide needs an extra bump to go into battery. Now any round that comes out of the chamber, on a SD pistol, I put in with the practice ammo.
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