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Offline jimzilla

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Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« on: October 08, 2017, 05:44:36 PM »
I have a CZ 75 SP01 CUSTOM ACCU SHADOW MATCH 9mm and the stainless steel guide rod is getting chewed up a bit on the button end of the rod and I am wondering if this is normal. I have had some break in issues like failure to feed, jams, not going all the way into battery, things like that. I do not know if it is from that or if that is typical of the SP01. As always your opinions are greatly appreciated, thanks.
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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2017, 04:24:05 PM »
anyone?
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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2017, 04:55:43 PM »
No wear.  Dirty, but no wear.  No wear on the other side either.
 

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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2017, 05:13:43 PM »
I use the plastic rod, but I did read about some wear like you describe here....

http://forums.brianenos.com/topic/192767-guide-rod-all-chewed-up/

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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2017, 07:44:30 PM »
Yes, I am having the exact same problems as  described in the...
http://forums.brianenos.com/topic/192767-guide-rod-all-chewed-up/
link you sent me, but what is the fix? a heaver spring?
I wish Stuart could chime in on this O0
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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 12:36:28 AM »
Yes,  a heavier recoil spring is needed to lighten the blow.  I think this suggestion came from schmecky, but I wouldn't bet my stainless rod on it.  The damage stopped after I went up a pound or two...9mm 75 Shadow Custom...had an 11# spring when delivered.

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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 07:23:42 AM »
I have a SP01 CUSTOM ACCU SHADOW 9mm and I don't know what spring is currently in it. how do I find out?
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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 11:38:02 AM »
So for the cost of replacement springs, they are $6 each from Cajun Gun Works, I would buy 3 different weights and see which solves the issue.  My last order was for the 12# but your needs might be different, I am running 125 grain bullets at 130 power factor.  If you are running hotter loads you might have a different result.  And a replacement guide rod is in $22 from Cajun as well. 

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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2017, 11:40:46 AM »
Button end this time, well because I messed up the last time and was in a hurry.

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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2017, 12:05:01 PM »
I run 124GR or 115GR. Currently shooting Sellier&Bellot 124GR The power factor is....  146.44
I will take your advice and get 3 different spring weights, Are the springs marked in some way as to the weights?
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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2017, 01:59:54 PM »
Yes.  CGW Springs are different colors.  They start at 14 lbs (I think) and go down to 10.  I would do 13, 12, 11.  Also here is some good info to check out.

https://cajungunworks.com/technical-support/

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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 08:59:31 PM »
I ordered the springs from CZ Custom today, They are getting ready to ship back a pistol they are working on for me so I will have them put the parts in the pistol box ...... FREE SHIPPING O0
Thanks guys for the help.
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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2017, 02:55:13 AM »
I ordered the springs from CZ Custom today, They are getting ready to ship back a pistol they are working on for me so I will have them put the parts in the pistol box ...... FREE SHIPPING O0
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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2017, 10:12:53 AM »
Here's a thread I started about plastic guide rods that ultimately led to metal guide rod discussion. My wear was with a 14 lb recoil spring and metal guide rod.

Ultimately I'm using one of the thicker plastic guide rods. If for no other reason in order to be able to use lighter springs with no damage.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=90794.15

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Re: Stainless Steel Guide Rod Wear
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2017, 10:51:22 PM »
I compared the guide rod (plastic) from a factory TS to a TSO, SP01 and Shadow 2 and found the TS to be shorter than TSO, SP01 and Shadow. 

Can anyone confirm that stock guide rods for Tactical Sports are different length than the Orange and SP01 models?

I'll toss up some pictures of the various guide rods when I have some more time.