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Offline armoredman

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You know the one, the striker moving sideways and the gun hanging up?

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Great video, I for the life of me couldn’t get it to be “FATAL” either. I also tried the other one I heard which was the striker cover drifting down and causing a hang up. I could force it down as much as possible and gingerly close the slide and get it to catch. But any normal movement of the slide put the cover right back where it belonged


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Already got a "thumbs down" on the video - someone doesn't like the truth, or is it me? I know my fat gut is showing!

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Anonymous criticism is the hallmark of the feeble lol


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The children of the glock are grasping at any straw they can find or manufacture to trash the gun. They ought to concentrate more on some of the issues the last couple generations of glocks have suffered from.
There maybe some issues with a select few P10's but it appears CZ already has remedies in place and updates in the pipeline. glock has ignored and denied the existence of any issues with their products in the past.

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There are no flaws in Glocks.  Just ask Gaston.

I shot one 30 years ago.  That day at the range a $199 Taurus (Beretta 92 clone) shot rings around the perfect pistol.  Then I bought one many years later (I have no real answer for why I do things I've said I'll never do????)  Tried a lot of different loads/powders/bullets and finally parked it in the safe part of the way through a grip mod. 

No matter what it is, bad ones will get out the door.  In the first year or so of a new model, more bad ones than usual will get out the door.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.  So, if you see me walking the dogs with my SIG 556R, its okay.

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My P10 is one of my favorite guns to shoot, 700ish rounds so far without a single failure.

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That was a well done video Armoredman.  8)


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My cynical nature has a hard time finding Omaha outdoors as completely innocent, and only putting this out as a community service when their main bread and butter is ridiculously overpriced custom glocks.


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Nice video.  I find it interesting that one video says the pistol passes every torture test and another says it fails every test.  I do see something different in your video from the one you are referencing.  You never ride the slide forward. 

Another total conspiracy theory and I'm not sure what I am seeing.  In the one video after describing the malfunction at the table, they show it happen on the range.  The first thing I noticed around 1:45 is that does not appear that a magazine is in the pistol.  Maybe it is the camera angle but I don't see a round eject when the shooter does the first tap/rack.  Then the shooter covers the ejection port like he is catching a round out of the chamber but was the magazine in the pistol?  After clamping his hand like holding the round ejected from the chamber the slide is cycled from the front cocking serrations and the pistol seems to go into battery every time.  Am I seeing this wrong?  I will say almost everytime they cycle the slide they ride is forward. 

I see it at work all the time (mostly with the rifle) but people ride the slide/charging handle forward and wonder why the slide doesn't seat in battery.  I see you properly sling shot the slide and the striker moves into position.  You also release the slide with the slide stop without interfering with the forward motion of the slide and everything locks into battery. 

I say it is a Youtube conspiracy.  I'm gathering torches and pitch forks now.   8)  David

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Re: I went to the range to explore that P-10C "fatal flaw" as it was called...
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2017, 01:36:06 PM »
I do not have a P10C, my striker fired pistols are a different brand.  Beretta APX.  :P  However, I would not be opposed in any way from purchasing a P10 in the least. 

Having said that, there shouldn't be any issues with this pistol, if used properly, IMO.  Those arguing that new pistols always have bugs, nah, don't buy it.  CZ is a highly respected global company, and striker fired pistols have been around forever.  It isn't rocket surgery.

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There are no flaws in Glocks.  Just ask Gaston.

I shot one 30 years ago.  That day at the range a $199 Taurus (Beretta 92 clone) shot rings around the perfect pistol.  Then I bought one many years later (I have no real answer for why I do things I've said I'll never do????)  Tried a lot of different loads/powders/bullets and finally parked it in the safe part of the way through a grip mod. 

No matter what it is, bad ones will get out the door.  In the first year or so of a new model, more bad ones than usual will get out the door.
Glock is so perfect they're going back to design features they dropped 30 years ago. 

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Come on guys! Some of y’all are acting like the glock fan boys, only with CZ. I’ve had the slide cover plate jam my P10C while shooting. At first I thought it was a reload that wouldn’t chamber. After reading about others having an out of battery jam, I looked closer at mine. Since my fix, no more problems. How many of you video your shooting sessions? I don’t, so I would never have proof of anything. Im not trying to be an a$$. But this video proves nothing. One guy, one gun. All Indians walk in single file, at least the one I saw did! Apparently this is not a widespread problem. Remember, though my name says stuck on Glocks, I carry my RMR P10C instead of my Glocks. I still think CZ should come up with a fix.


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Come on guys! Some of y’all are acting like the glock fan boys, only with CZ. I’ve had the slide cover plate jam my P10C while shooting. At first I thought it was a reload that wouldn’t chamber. After reading about others having an out of battery jam, I looked closer at mine. Since my fix, no more problems. How many of you video your shooting sessions? I don’t, so I would never have proof of anything. Im not trying to be an a$$. But this video proves nothing. One guy, one gun. All Indians walk in single file, at least the one I saw did! Apparently this is not a widespread problem. Remember, though my name says stuck on Glocks, I carry my RMR P10C instead of my Glocks. I still think CZ should come up with a fix.


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I could'nt agree more..CZ should come up with a fix...One should not be able to do this with a  fairly new P-10 like mine, that has not been disassembled beyond field stripping. The real question is, what happens when these guns get some rounds on them, say 5,6,7000 rnds down the pipe,What happens as the springs get weaker? Will this happen on it's own? I bought my P-10 as a alternate to a Glock, and it was bought with the intent of using it as a carry gun. I cannot in good conscious, carry it as it is.For now, I've put my P-10 in the safe, and I'm carrying a USPc with a light LEM.. it may not be the coolest thing on the block, but it's dead nuts reliable, accurate, and what few bugs it had,were worked out back in the 90's..

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Since my fix, no more problems.


What was the fix you did to the back plate?  Can you post a picture of it in case it helps others like me.  David

 

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