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Offline john seeley

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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2017, 09:40:05 PM »
https://dawsonprecision.com/sights/cz-sights/
Per Dawson's website:

CZ Front Sight Dovetail Depths
0.085 Deep Dovetail: CZ 75B, CZ 75 Tactical Sport, CZ 85 Combat
0.060 Deep Dovetail: CZ 75 Shadow and CZ SP-01
0.070 Deep Dovetail: CZ P09 and CZ P07

(Correct me if i'm wrong but I believe the PCR falls into the 0.085" category)


They offer 3 groupings of CZ dovetail depths but I just emailed Dawson to be sure which category the PCR is in.  I'm also thinking it's .085" but just want to make sure.
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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2017, 10:14:10 PM »
I can't say for sure about the PCR but I do have a P-01 and a shadow 1(SP-01 Shadow).

I have replaced the sights on both and can say for sure the P-01 has the 2mm dovetail and the shadow has a 1.5mm
Below is an email response I got from David at CGW about the 2mm sight I ordered not working on the shadow.

The Shadow uses a different height on the dovetail.  Most CZ's use a 2 mm depth, the Shadow uses a 1.5 mm.  Most folks keep the stock F/O front sight on their Shadows, so we are not carrying the 1.5 mm depth.

Check with Dawson Precision for the 1.5 mm depth front sight.

David



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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2017, 10:21:07 PM »
OK. Thanks.

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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2017, 12:11:41 PM »
Dawson confirmed that the front sight dovetail depth for the CZ 75 D Compact is indeed .085".
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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2017, 05:06:48 PM »
In terms of the CZ 75D Compact, does anyone know the difference between these 3 front sights which are all the same total height (5.5mm/.215") and width (.100"). Which one would be better for my PCR?:

Dawson 019-350:  https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-cz-75-d-compact-fiber-optic-front-sights/
Dawson 019-301:  https://dawsonprecision.com/cz-75-shadow-sp-01-fiber-optic-front-sights/
GCW  050-390:      https://cajungunworks.com/product/050-390-correct-oem-fo-front-sight/

One thing I notice is the first one listed (Dawson 019-350) looks shorter in length and the iron that holds the fiber is shallow. The other two are longer with deeper irons.  So won't the other two let-in more light because they're longer?

Thanks.




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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2017, 06:54:44 PM »
In terms of the CZ 75D Compact, does anyone know the difference between these 3 front sights which are all the same total height (5.5mm/.215") and width (.100"). Which one would be better for my PCR?:

Dawson 019-350:  https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-cz-75-d-compact-fiber-optic-front-sights/
Dawson 019-301:  https://dawsonprecision.com/cz-75-shadow-sp-01-fiber-optic-front-sights/
GCW  050-390:      https://cajungunworks.com/product/050-390-correct-oem-fo-front-sight/

One thing I notice is the first one listed (Dawson 019-350) looks shorter in length and the iron that holds the fiber is shallow. The other two are longer with deeper irons.  So won't the other two let-in more light because they're longer?

Thanks.


https://dawsonprecision.com/cz-75-shadow-sp-01-fiber-optic-front-sights/ is the link to the one I'm using in my shadow. The .170x.100 is for the 1.5mm dovetail. Not sure about the other sizes on that page. Call either Dawson or CGW, They will help order the correct one for your pistol. I'm not positive but I think either the first Dawson sight (019-350) or the CGW sight which is also a Dawson sight will work for you. Looks like they just have a different width.

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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2017, 10:07:14 PM »
Thanks. You're right about the Dawson 019-301 which has a different dovetail depth and is not for the CZ 75 D Compact. I call CGW in the morning. to see what the difference inthe other two are besides the obvious length difference.

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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2017, 05:48:54 PM »
According to Dawson, these two sights are not the same.

The 050-390 has a .085" dovetail and is .125" in height from the top of slide. Total height = .210"  These sight for most CZ 75s.
The 019-350 has a .080" dovetail and is .130" in height from the top of slide. Total height = .210"  This sight is for the CZ 75 D Compact.

The 050-390 is substantially longer in length. Dawson recommended the 050-390 for the PCR which will match the stock rear (or the CZC tactical rear for PCR).

Reference:
050-390:  https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-cz-75b-85-combat-fiber-optic-front-sights/
https://cajungunworks.com/product/050-390-correct-oem-fo-front-sight/
019-350:  https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-cz-75-d-compact-fiber-optic-front-sights/

EDIT: In these thread: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=77687.15  You'll see photos posted by bigmatt17073 who used this combo on his PCR. He said the POI was spot on.
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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2017, 09:16:13 PM »
Good deal. Glad you got it all worked out.

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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2017, 09:47:59 AM »
According to Dawson, these two sights are not the same.

The 050-390 has a .085" dovetail and is .125" in height from the top of slide. Total height = .210"  These sight for most CZ 75s.
The 019-350 has a .080" dovetail and is .130" in height from the top of slide. Total height = .210"  This sight is for the CZ 75 D Compact.


Good info for all of us. Thanks

Hope the POI is where you want it as I understand guns can be different.  Let us know how it goes.

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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2017, 10:18:41 AM »
Will do. Thanks guys. I ordered the 050-390 and I hope the POI is accurate. I'm still confused because Dawson says the CZ 75 D Compact and the PCR are separate guns. I thought the PCR fell under CZ 75 D Compact category.

Regarding the 050-390, GGW has the total height listed as .215" (5.5mm) while Dawson has the height listed as .125" from the top of the slide plus the .085" dovetail, so the total height is .210" (5.3mm). --Same model number. Jay from Dawson said this sight will work on the PCR with the stock sight.

Jay also said the 019-350 will NOT work with the PCR or the PCR's stock rear sight (can't remember which) but it's listed to work with a CZ 75 D Compact. But when you look at the fiber optic set which includes 019-350 (both sold separately as well) it looks like this is made SPECIFICALLY for the PCR to cover the front notch:  https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-cz-75-d-compact-carry-fixed-sight-set-fiber-optic-rear-fiber-optic-front/  I don't know.
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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2017, 10:53:30 AM »
Will do. Thanks guys. I ordered the 050-390 and I hope the POI is accurate. I'm still confused because Dawson says the CZ 75 D Compact and the PCR are separate guns. I thought the PCR fell under CZ 75 D Compact category.


CZ does or has made variants. Here is an old thread discussing it. Too bad photo bucket changed things.

 http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=78044.0

Though this does not answer your question as the PCR roll mark is CZ 75D compact.  ???
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Re: Which fiber optic Front sight with CZC PCR Tactical Rear?
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2017, 10:57:03 AM »
Cool. Thanks.

 

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