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Offline The Guardian

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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2017, 12:01:06 AM »
I mostly shoot handloads, but Hornady's steel cased SST ammo is some excellent stuff and very effective on medium size game. Silver Bear is good accuracy wise, but the bullets are inconsistent on hogs, haven't tried them on deer. They seem to blow up instead of penetrate about 1/3 of the time.  PPU's 123gr soft point is the same way, the older 123gr round nose is great on deer and hogs.

 I've shot as many as 15 hogs over the course of a weekend but rarely more than two before I had to go looking again.

 Most deer in a day with the 7.62x39 was 3 Axis deer in about an hour. All were 1 shot kills from 40 to 80 yards.

Great info.....thanks for sharing your experiences!
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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2017, 09:00:12 PM »
Please give us a range report when you have time.  Great choice and a nice medium range and medium game cartridge.  Folks who shoot out of good shooting semi-autos and most bolts rave about the accuracy. 

Hope I didn't anger anyone regarding my post about steel case and core ammo.  I had no idea some of it is much higher quality than the tired comm bloc stuff.  Hornady SST is no joke and in a steel Hornady case, hopefully a lot cheaper.

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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2017, 09:25:44 PM »
Please give us a range report when you have time.  Great choice and a nice medium range and medium game cartridge.  Folks who shoot out of good shooting semi-autos and most bolts rave about the accuracy. 

Hope I didn't anger anyone regarding my post about steel case and core ammo.  I had no idea some of it is much higher quality than the tired comm bloc stuff.  Hornady SST is no joke and in a steel Hornady case, hopefully a lot cheaper.

Will do on the range report.........as far as angering anyone, folks here are pretty open to opinions, experiences, suggestions........no harm done  ;)
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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2017, 07:51:20 PM »
So glad this topic popped up. My intention is to get a 527, but I'm not sure what variant. I know I want iron sights, so it's either the Lux or Carbine. I would use mine exclusively for target shooting, so by reading on here, the .223 would be the better choice?
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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2017, 08:19:29 PM »
So glad this topic popped up. My intention is to get a 527, but I'm not sure what variant. I know I want iron sights, so it's either the Lux or Carbine. I would use mine exclusively for target shooting, so by reading on here, the .223 would be the better choice?

My thought originally was along those same lines, but I already had some .223/5.56 options and really wanted something different that wasn’t expensive to shoot and that wasn’t a recoil beast and that was capable if need be to take down something that a .223 wouldn’t...so I went with the 7.62x39mm.....just my thought process  ;)
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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2017, 08:31:11 PM »
Makes sense to me. I don't hunt or extinguish varmints, so mine would be 100% target use. And with so many .223 options, like you, I wanted something that used inexpensive ammo. If I was going to hunt with it, I would definitely go with the 7.62x39 also. I've really started looking at the 527 Lux in .223 recently. Just need to find one for a good price......
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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2017, 11:16:55 AM »
I skipped both of those in the CZ and went with a 6.5 Grendel, after having built a few in AR platform.  I also have AR's  in 5.56 and a .223 Remington 700 varmint special, not exactly a walking around gun, but fun. 

Back when 6.5 Grendel brass was hard to find and very expensive, I picked up a large supply of IMI 7.62x39 brass and resized to Grendel for fireforming.  I have not tried any in my CZ yet, but the loads to fireform function through my AR's just fine, cycling the action, chambering the next round, ect.  Nowhere near the velocity, or the accuracy of a properly formed case, shooting very low in comparison, but still fun to plink with, using a lot of "Kentucky windeage".

My idea of ideal would be one of the little 527 FS carbines in 6.5 Grendel

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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2017, 07:21:33 PM »
I was told by a CZ gunsmith that converting the 527 to 6.5 Grendel is easy and popular, but not popular enough to offer it in that chambering. Dagnabbit.

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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2017, 07:25:29 PM »
I was told by a CZ gunsmith that converting the 527 to 6.5 Grendel is easy and popular, but not popular enough to offer it in that chambering. Dagnabbit.

CZ offers the 527 in 6.5 Grendel.

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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2017, 08:13:11 AM »
I was told by a CZ gunsmith that converting the 527 to 6.5 Grendel is easy and popular, but not popular enough to offer it in that chambering. Dagnabbit.

CZ offers the 527 in 6.5 Grendel.
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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2017, 03:43:19 PM »
I was told by a CZ gunsmith that converting the 527 to 6.5 Grendel is easy and popular, but not popular enough to offer it in that chambering. Dagnabbit.

CZ offers two configuration, classic American walnut stock with a slender 24" barrel, the other a "distressed" birch or beech stock, same barrel.

I'm hoping for a shorter barrel, full stock version with open sights,  more a classic European stalking rifle type.

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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2017, 07:09:28 PM »
I was told by a CZ gunsmith that converting the 527 to 6.5 Grendel is easy and popular, but not popular enough to offer it in that chambering. Dagnabbit.

CZ offers two configuration, classic American walnut stock with a slender 24" barrel, the other a "distressed" birch or beech stock, same barrel.

I'm hoping for a shorter barrel, full stock version with open sights,  more a classic European stalking rifle type.

My thoughts exactly...... ^^^^^^^
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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2017, 07:42:41 PM »
I should have been more clear - the 527M - I love iron sights.

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Re: 527 in 7.62x39 or .223/5.56 ......
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2017, 07:09:35 AM »
I don't own any CZ rifles, but I've seen several mentions here of stores/vendors in Europe that sell CZ pistol parts/accessories.

Would it be worth doing some google searches to see if a larger variety of stocks, slings, barrels, sights, etc. are available for CZ rifles from European sources?

If, I was going to use a CZ for hunting (walking through the woods for deer/hog sized game) I think I'd want something with a rust free finish and a synthetic stock.  Not sure I'd be willing to hunt in the pouring down rain or blowing snow like I did 30/40 years ago, but I might and a durable set up would be important to me.  I used to deer hunt with my M1A when I lived in WV.  Spent a few afternoons sitting out there dusting the snow off the scope/rifle waiting on a buck to walk down a path, or two.
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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2017, 08:20:50 AM »
I never have nor plan on hunting in blowing rain, plus living in the deep south, grew up in Louisiana, spent some time in the USAF over in Georgia along with a couple of years overseas in Turkey, then some time in Florida before setteling in E. Texas, never had much snow and never hunted in it.   

As humid as it is in this part of the country I have never had any problems with rust or stocks warping.  I simply run a slightly oily rag over the metal, and wipe my stock down with a dry rag, and occasionally wax them.   At 72 years old I know how to take care of a gun.

I have one rifle, a custom Ruger 10 22 I built up in stainless, with a nice Fajan walnut stock.  I have read all the pros on synthetic stocks and cannot argue with them, and have several AR 15 types with of course synthetic stocks, but too me a synthetic stock lacks soul.   I will continue on into old age preferring and sticking with my blued steel and walnut.

 

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