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Offline John A.

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assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« on: February 26, 2018, 11:09:35 PM »
Basically, they're listing semiautomatic handguns, shotguns, and rifles.

Most magazines too.

Yes, there is 126 pages of the bill:

https://cicilline.house.gov/sites/cicilline.house.gov/files/images/Assault_Weapons_Ban_of_2018.pdf
When people ignorant of guns make gun laws, you end up with ignorant gun laws.

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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 11:23:13 PM »
The truly scary thing is that this extremist, Fascism laced bill is supported by 150+ democratic members of the House of Representatives.  This represents more than 1/3 of the representatives in the House.  Ladies & Gentlemen I tell you now, despite our hopes, prayers, never ending efforts and desires to preserve that which our Forefathers endowed us, the day will come sooner rather than later, that we will have to fight and if necessary, die to preserve them.  I can only hope and pray that if such a tragedy does come to pass, that those in the positions of our government who perpetuated stripping us of these rights, are amongst the fatalities.

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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 11:53:09 PM »
Lol, I love it, as usual the Ruger mini 14 & 30 are legal as long as they don’t have the dreaded and horrifying black plastic stock w/pistol grip.
   
  After watching a couple videos of comedian Brad Stine recently, I’ve picked up a new catch phrase for all these people that come up with these laws.... “Put a helmet on!!”
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Offline Jericho Hill

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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2018, 12:57:08 PM »
Why are they so scared of a barrel shroud?  And what are people who enjoy the hearing protection a suppressor offers going to do since threaded barrels are scary too. 

Offline John A.

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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2018, 01:30:08 PM »
Why are they so scared of a barrel shroud

Because it was listed on the original 94 ban.

And while I want to say how stupid they are, if you read the bill, it further defines a shroud this time than the last and says anything that covers, or even partially covers the barrel that would protect your hand from heat, is a shroud.

‘‘(38) The term ‘barrel shroud’
24 ‘‘(A) means a shroud that is attached to, or
25 partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a fire-
arm so that the shroud protects the user of the fire
arm from heat generated by the barrel
; and
3 ‘‘(B)

does not include
4 ‘‘(i) a slide that partially or completely en5
closes the barrel; or
6 ‘‘(ii) an extension of the stock along the
7 bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or
8 substantially encircle the barrel
.


So, from reading the definition and the exclusions, this would not be a barrel shroud:



And is just vague enough that it would include many different guns like the one below, because it's not a physical extension of the buttstock.

Not a 1 piece extension of the stock

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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2018, 01:38:20 PM »
Going nowhere
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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2018, 05:34:18 PM »
Lol, I love it, as usual the Ruger mini 14 & 30 are legal as long as they don’t have the dreaded and horrifying black plastic stock w/pistol grip.
   
  After watching a couple videos of comedian Brad Stine recently, I’ve picked up a new catch phrase for all these people that come up with these laws.... “Put a helmet on!!”
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP6-CtJ2SpwZTEWHrVfthWITB1d_6ln2b
My Mini 14 is on the ban list.

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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2018, 10:16:35 AM »
Going nowhere

Agreed.

It is a hell of a thing to read, though.  :o
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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2018, 10:19:11 AM »
Lol, I love it, as usual the Ruger mini 14 & 30 are legal as long as they don’t have the dreaded and horrifying black plastic stock w/pistol grip.

Sadly, that's not entirely true. This isn't the Clinton AWB, read it a little more closely. All a firearm (rifle, shotgun, or pistol) has to possess of the "bad features" list is ONE feature (not 2 or more). So, this means a Mini-14/30 with a threaded barrel is classified as an AW. Also, because of the wording in the definitions, they could contend that the removable handguard portion is a barrel shroud, therefor making it illegal as well.
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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2018, 10:20:07 AM »
Going nowhere

We would think, but do NOT assume. Still contact your Congressmen to voice your opinion.

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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 12:51:25 PM »
No point in contacting mine. It's still going nowhere.
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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2018, 11:56:36 PM »
The House will not pass it, it's as dead as Caesar's ghost. DO keep letting your elected officials know that you are watching, and jumping the wrong way.

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Re: assualt weapons ban of 2018 submitted
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2018, 11:43:53 PM »
I find it interesting that I can go on my local AF Base and buy several moderately good semi auto rifles and quite a number of S-A pistols. After market parts can upgrade their performance.
I would have to sign my life away,  but it's doable.