Author Topic: Followup to old post - slide lock or slingshot for speed shooting (with video)  (Read 637 times)

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Offline rhart

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Musashi:
- In all forms of strategy, it is necessary to maintain the combat stance in everyday life and to make your everyday stance your combat stance. (situational awareness).
- You can only fight the way you practice.
- If you do not control the enemy, the enemy will control you.

Offline MoRivera

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I still slingshot because it's a more sure/reliable action for me, especially since my pistols that are SAO and have a thumb safety that make it harder to clearly reach that slide lock/release.  I want to keep that action consistent for every pistol that I shoot, some of which (like my Sig's) have a very different position for the slide lock/release.  All my mag release buttons are in the same position, and even some guns like HK's that have ambi and/or paddle releases, I still use my strong thumb for consistency.  I am certain that I will lose more time (especially in competition) if I miss the slide release  because of extended safety-lever interference or what have you than the time it takes to manually rack back into action.  Same thing if I try to use any support hand thumb on the slide release, by strong hand thumb is already in the way.

If I used just one gun/model for both defensive and competition shooting, then yes perhaps I would use the slide release if it was easily accessible.  But I shoot various different pistols and like doing so, so again for the sake of consistency I manually rack.  And the consistency I feel also helps when it comes to clearing malfunctions.

Offline SlvrDragon50

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I use both depending upon where my gun is (if I forgot to rack the slide, I'll use the slide lock, otherwise I'll rack the slide on the reload). That said, I don't think the video is fair since his reload was fumbled in the sling shot run.

Offline rhart

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I'd like to see him do it again with a competition setup to reduce the effect of slight fumbles (which it seemed to me he fumbled a little in both instances).
Musashi:
- In all forms of strategy, it is necessary to maintain the combat stance in everyday life and to make your everyday stance your combat stance. (situational awareness).
- You can only fight the way you practice.
- If you do not control the enemy, the enemy will control you.

Offline rhart

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I still slingshot because it's a more sure/reliable action for me, especially since my pistols that are SAO and have a thumb safety that make it harder to clearly reach that slide lock/release.  I want to keep that action consistent for every pistol that I shoot, some of which (like my Sig's) have a very different position for the slide lock/release.  All my mag release buttons are in the same position, and even some guns like HK's that have ambi and/or paddle releases, I still use my strong thumb for consistency.  I am certain that I will lose more time (especially in competition) if I miss the slide release  because of extended safety-lever interference or what have you than the time it takes to manually rack back into action.  Same thing if I try to use any support hand thumb on the slide release, by strong hand thumb is already in the way.

If I used just one gun/model for both defensive and competition shooting, then yes perhaps I would use the slide release if it was easily accessible.  But I shoot various different pistols and like doing so, so again for the sake of consistency I manually rack.  And the consistency I feel also helps when it comes to clearing malfunctions.

There is a lot to be said for consistency. Whichever method is used should be consistently practiced so that one doesn't have to consciously think about it during a high-stress event. I use the slide-lock/slide release method on CZs, 1911s, S&W M&P semi's and Glocks because it is faster for me with my grip. I activate the slide lock with my off-hand on the way to establishing my off-hand grip (on both semi auto pistols and ARs with ping-pong paddles). Everyone is different though, so to each his own.
Musashi:
- In all forms of strategy, it is necessary to maintain the combat stance in everyday life and to make your everyday stance your combat stance. (situational awareness).
- You can only fight the way you practice.
- If you do not control the enemy, the enemy will control you.